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Why is Jean Pascal working with the chemist Angel "Memo" Heredia?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Y0@NN View Post
    The nerves of this guy...
    Let me remind you: first, Pascal runs his mouth about Kovalev might be on peds and says he's willing to pay the tests for both, Team Kovalev agrees and proposes Vada but Pascal ends ups saying he doesn't want to pay anymore and prefers to use some obscure canadian laboratory he's been working with for years...
    dude, you are not being completely honest. You read the twitter exchange? DUva said it was her right to choose the testing protocol as she manages/promotes the champ. Yet she didn't put VADA testing in the contract and didn't say anything until Kovalev responded to Pascal.

    Pascal has been working with Memo yet Kathy saw no reason to put the VADA testing in the contract. That is very telling.

    Duva should have shelled out for the testing. If not in the beginning, then at least when her fighter said lets do VADA. She didn't and its on her. Lets stop the misdirected anger.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Freedom.
      She's not a rich promoter, Big Dunn. She has to be careful with her money, Main Events was going to close down before they found Kovalev.

      But I agree she should have offered to pay for VADA.
      Ab so fuhkin lutely. Her main boxer is in a fight with someone who is associated with Memo. If you think Pascal is going to cheat, prevent it. Don't be cheap and then try to win the PR war on twitter.

      The fight has no testing and that is ridiculous for a fight at this level in 2015.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        dude, you are not being completely honest. You read the twitter exchange? DUva said it was her right to choose the testing protocol as she manages/promotes the champ. Yet she didn't put VADA testing in the contract and didn't say anything until Kovalev responded to Pascal.

        Pascal has been working with Memo yet Kathy saw no reason to put the VADA testing in the contract. That is very telling.

        Duva should have shelled out for the testing. If not in the beginning, then at least when her fighter said lets do VADA. She didn't and its on her. Lets stop the misdirected anger.
        Shes been consistent the whole time. She doesnt believe in this type of unregulated testing, and shes right. But since Pascal demanded it and offered to pay, they were willing to accommodate

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        • #14
          Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          Shes been consistent the whole time. She doesnt believe in this type of unregulated testing, and shes right. But since Pascal demanded it and offered to pay, they were willing to accommodate
          dude stop with your nonsense. If she doesn't believe in the tests, that should have been her response when Pascal asked for testing.

          Instead of saying "I don't believe in testing" she said "it's my right to choose". do you see how she contradicted herself there?

          She didn't want to spend money on testing and she isn't spending any on it. Its just that simple.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            Duva should have shelled out for the testing. If not in the beginning, then at least when her fighter said lets do VADA. She didn't and its on her. Lets stop the misdirected anger.
            This we agree on. It's a shame there's not testing for this fight at all not matter how flawed it can be.
            I don't care for Duva but she might fear if she starts paying for the tests, his other fighters opponents will ask her to pay for it too.
            Last edited by Y0@NN; 03-03-2015, 04:00 PM.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Y0@NN View Post
              This we agree on. It's a shame there's not testing for this fight at all not matter how flawed it can be.
              I don't care for Duva but she might fear if she starts paying for the tests, his other fighters opponents will ask her to pay for it too.
              Exactly, especially when you have a fighter with an HBO deal who stands to make bigger money if he keeps winning.

              Pascal is no saint, but had Kathy done this right, this issue would have come up before the fight was signed. I place blame totally on Duva.

              This should be the last fight she puts on of this magnitude without testing.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Freedom.
                Because it was Heredia's choice of an agency, obviously he knew the testing wouldn't detect his PEDs.

                Only VADA seems to catch boxers on designer PEDs: Berto, Pederson, Rios, etc.
                Are you serious? Berto was tested positive for nandrolone, Peterson for testosterone and Rios for DMAA. None of them is a designer PED. VADA uses WADA accredited labs like USADA and many state comissions do. It's not that only VADA can detect certain PEDs...

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  dude stop with your nonsense. If she doesn't believe in the tests, that should have been her response when Pascal asked for testing.

                  Instead of saying "I don't believe in testing" she said "it's my right to choose". do you see how she contradicted herself there?

                  She didn't want to spend money on testing and she isn't spending any on it. Its just that simple.
                  Stop with this fake indignation. Pascal wants to make sure both guys are clean (supposedly), offered to pay for both. Vada is cheaper and more proven than whoever Pascal is in cahoots with. Whats the problem?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    the better question-why didn't duva have VADA testing for this fight?

                    There are a few possible reasons for that.

                    1. She needed a meaningful, credible opponent for Kovalov, and Pascal was by far the best available. She didn't want to risk him turning the fight down by insisting that he use VADA instead of his usual testing agency.

                    2. She maybe wasn't 100% sure that Kovalev was clean. Duva's response to Pascal's offer was negative. It was Kovalev and Klimas who brought VADA into the frame.

                    3. She didn't want to pay for it.

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                    • #20
                      Pascal has -0000000000000.000000.0% chance of even winning more then 4 seconds of a single round of this fight. Jhonny Gonzalez has more of a chance to knock out a prime Mike Tyson with 24oz pillows strapped to his fists and hanging upside down then Pascal has to even win a single round.


                      It's absolutely impossible for Pascal to even win a round against Kovalev, yet alone the fight.


                      Pascal can come as roided up as humanely possible and he still won't win a single round.


                      With Sergey Kovalev, it's simply meant to be: He will become the GOAT LHW. You don't become the GOAT 175lber by losing title fights. He will not lose. Against no one. Sergey Kovalev is going to retire undefeated, he will have beaten not only Pascal, but Andre Ward and Adonis Stevenson once HBO offers him a $15 million pay day to finally sit down and accept his defeat.

                      Kovalev is simply too good. He cannot be stopped. Too much of a combination of two-handed power, timing, accuracy, footwork and all-around brilliance. It is what it is. Pascal, go ahead and roid yourself up like the incredible hulk- it only makes Kovalev's victory on his path to ATG'ness that much sweeter

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