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Idk wtf borderline HOF means. You are either HOF or not HOF. Right now I don't believe if Canelo retired he should be a HOF guy despite belts in 2 weight divisions. With how wacky the HOF can be who knows. He definitely gots the best or one of the best 25 year old resumes doe so he's clearly on the right path.
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I think canelo will make the hof easily he's already got one foot in the door.he's fought pretty much every good/great fighter there was to fight so far winning all of them.I don't hold his loss to jr against him because he was drained fighting at 152 and he was just 23.as for controversial wins every guy in the hof has them.even ivoid jr has one again castillo in which he lost.Comment
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It's hard to say because age shouldn't be a factor to determine his credentials IMO. Sure he's 25 (supposedly) but he's been a pro since 16 (supposedly) and is already close to having a 10 year career. For all we know, he might be shot at 30 or before that. Way too early to tell but his current resume, although his recent string of opposition needs to be admired, is not yet hall of fame material.Comment
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No, because he isn't dominating anybody, he isn't being impressive in his wins. Trout won IMO and most others, some say Lara won, and Some say Cotto drawed or won. Mosley? Kirkland? those were pathetic wins, Mosley is well beyond his days and Kirkland looked lost from the start of the bell, well past prime. When is Canelo going to be that dominate fighter? In 15/20 years from now when we look back at Canelo's career, whats going to stand out? As of right now, nothing.Comment
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Is Canelo's resume already Hall of Fame worthy?
Lets keep it real here. Canelo is 25 but probably has the best resume in all of boxing and MMA. Lets take a gander at that there resume of Canelo's.
Canelo defeated the always entertaining future LW champion of the world Miguel Vazquez in just his 3rd at 15 years of age. A rematch would ensue with Canelo once again winning.
Canelo's next big fight,at 19,would be against one Jose Cotto. Canelo would go onto dominate the fight and win via stoppage.
4 months later Canelo would face former lineal champion Carlos Baldomir and would destroy the iron chinned legend with one punch in the 4th round.
In his following fights Canelo would defeat Hatton,Rhodes,Kintron,Mosely,Gomez, and Lopez all by way of stoppage before fighting 26-0 Austin Trout who had previously dominated feared Puerto Rican,Miguel Cotto.
Álvarez vs. Trout[edit]
His next fight took place on April 20, 2013 at the Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas. The fight was supposed to take place during Cinco de Mayo weekend as the co-main event of the Floyd Mayweather Jr. bout against Robert Guerrero; however, due to a contract disagreement between Alvarez and Mayweather regarding their potential fight on September 14, 2013, Alvarez opted to headline his own card. Alvarez successfully defended his WBC Light Middleweight title and won the WBA & the vacant The Ring Magazine Light Middleweight title.
During the first rounds, Trout seemed to have a good game plan. However, Alvarez's power took over after the third round, eventually scoring a knockdown in the seventh round to give Trout the first knockdown of his career. Alvarez set up the knockdown with a pawing left jab, followed by the straight right hand. The fight was closer than expected, but Alvarez still managed to dominate Trout throughout the fight with impressive head movement and shocking power. All three judges scorecards were in favor of Alvarez with a fair margin (115-112, 116-111 and 118-109).[35][Video 1] Although the last score card (118-109) created controversy, the majority of sport analysts had Alvarez winning by at least 2 points. Immediately after the bout, Trout stated that he hadn't underestimated Alvarez but that he trained to fight a completely different fighter.
Álvarez vs Angulo[edit]
Álvarez fought Alfredo Angulo on March 8, 2014.[40] Álvarez came out strong, throwing combinations. In a fairly lopsided beating, Álvarez scored a tenth round stoppage over Angulo punctuated by a lead left uppercut.[41]
Álvarez vs Lara[edit]
Álvarez fought Erislandy Lara on July 12, 2014, at the MGM Grand in a non-title match. Lara's WBA light middleweight title was not on the line as the fight took place at a 155 lb catchweight, and both fighters weighed in at precisely 155 lbs. Álvarez rehydrated to 171 lbs while Lara came into the ring at 166 lbs. In a very close and competitive fight that went to a split decision, Álvarez came out on top with the two judges scoring 115–113 in favor of each fighter and the final judge scoring 117–111 in favor of Álvarez.[42] The final scorecard was controversial as many observers considered it far too wide. According to the fight statistics provided by Sports Illustrated, Lara landed 55 jabs and 55 power punches to Álvarez's 7 jabs and 88 power punches for an overall accuracy rate of 28% as opposed to Álvarez's 23%. Lara's clean punching along with his defense and movement were weighed against Álvarez's somewhat effective aggressiveness.[43] Lara came out in dominant fashion, utilizing a stick-and-move style and capturing the early rounds. Álvarez was later able to hammer away to the body when he had Lara on the ropes but never adjusted to Lara's one-two combinations. Lara's lead hand played a huge role in this combination's effectiveness, but his output dropped in the middle rounds. Álvarez was able to cut Lara with a lead left uppercut in the seventh round.[44] Although the decision remains controversial, any talk of a rematch in the future was dismissed by Oscar De La Hoya who went on to say, "No one wants a rematch."[45] The fight took place at a catchweight of 155lbs.
Álvarez vs Kirkland[edit]
On May 9, 2015, Alvarez defeated James Kirkland in a non-title super welterweight bout at Minute Maid Park in Houston, Texas via third round knockout.[46] Kirkland came out aggressively, but Alvarez wobbled him and scored a knockdown via straight right hand in round one. In the third round, a counter right uppercut sent Kirkland to the canvas. Alvarez ended the fight with a jab to the body quickly followed by the right hand, creating the knockout.[47]The fight took place at a catchweight of 155lbs.
Álvarez vs Cotto[edit]
Main article: Miguel Cotto vs. Saúl Álvarez
On November 21, 2015, Álvarez won the WBC, lineal and The Ring middleweight titles with a unanimous decision over Miguel Cotto. The fight took place at a catch weight of 155 lbs.
So with all of that evidence,I ask you; If Canelo retired today,would he be inducted into the Boxing Hall of Fame?
Did somebody say Gennady Golovkin?Comment
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No. Period.Comment
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Why do people keep asking this?Comment
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Didn't Kev already make this thread?
It's hard to say because age shouldn't be a factor to determine his credentials IMO. Sure he's 25 (supposedly) but he's been a pro since 16 (supposedly) and is already close to having a 10 year career. People talk about his age like he's going to give us 10 more solid years when we really don't know how it will play out. For all we know, he might be shot at 30 or before that. One GGG beatdown next year could ruin his career...or he goes on to have a great career and only gets better with age. Way too early to tell but his current resume, although his recent string of opposition needs to be admired, is not yet hall of fame material.Last edited by _original_; 11-27-2015, 02:17 PM.Comment
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More people thought Trout won then Lara, including myself. Canelo's conditioning was one of his worst ever.Originally posted by Bardock View Postlol @ most others lmao!!!
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