Nathan cleverly

[P4P_No1]

Exaclty, so If Clev left Warren he would have progressed much faster and we would know exactly where he is, whereas now although he has a belt I wouldnt put him greater than Euro level at the moment.

I don't think it's anything to do with Warren too much on this imo.

I think Clev is above Euro level fighter but he'll never be an elite fighter imo. He's got a decent chin (but he's rarely been tested there), he's got good stamina and work-rate but that's about it.

No punching power, not defensively slick, not heavy handed. He's pretty bang average imo.

[rampant]

I don't think it's anything to do with Warren too much on this imo.

I think Clev is above Euro level fighter but he'll never be an elite fighter imo. He's got a decent chin (but he's rarely been tested there), he's got good stamina and work-rate but that's about it.

No punching power, not defensively slick, not heavy handed. He's pretty bang average imo.

Maybe your right and is why Warren is picking his opponents carefully.

[P4P_No1]

Maybe your right and is why Warren is picking his opponents carefully.

Warren's done that most of his career to be fair.

Always picked Khan's fights like that.

He was the only guys in that Khan Camp that didn't want the Prescott fight.

I'm still surprised he made the Mitchell - Katsdis fight.