What's the Difference Between GGG vs Wade and...

[SilverMiles]

Miles. You said this. Now you can't even come up with justification for this ranking that you mentioned in your opening post to say that Dominic Wade is the same caliber as Glen Johnson. How can he be ranked #3, ahead of Soliman, if Soliman beat him?

Glen Johnson is a good win in hindsight because we know he turned out to be a solid fighter. In 1998, they probably did view him as a bum with a padded record. Hindsight is fair game when you handpick a fight from nearly 20 years ago to prove a point that isn't there.

For every one Glen Johnson, there is 1000 Joe Lipseys. In Wade's 18 fights, he hasn't shown anything that says he will have such a career. So until proven otherwise, this fight sucks.

It's been a good discussion with you PBP. I always enjoy debating with you. If I could send you Green K again right now I would. Take it easy.

[Jubei]

Difference is that GGG is trying to fight all other beltholders and that they are avoiding him like the plague. Wade is his mandatory, he has to fight him, otherwise the IBF could strip him off his title. Also Wade is undefeated, bigger than GGG etc. People hold GGG to such extreme standards that 99% of his possible opponents are trash and 1:100 underdogs.

Ward for example tried to fight opponents that were so bad they would get rejected by the commission while GGG keeps calling out the best fighters in his division.

[SilverMiles]

No it's not. Legacies are defined after fighters retire. Your problem is you want to singlehandedly crown GGG today when his career is still a work in process. And Glen Johnson is a puzzle piece on a picture that has Tito Trinidad, Antonio Tarver, Keith Holmes, Kelly Pavlik, William Joppy, Jean Pascal and Winky Wright. If Hopkins never went on to beat those fighters, he would be forgotten and not cared about.

Were you alive in 1997? Nobody gave a damn about Hopkins back then. He was seen as a fighter who emerged in a weak division after Roy Jones, Bodysnstcher McCallum, James Toney, Sumbu Kalambay, Julian Jackson and Gerald McClellan left the division. It wasn't until the late 90s/early 2000s until people started to take notice and he got bigger and better fights.

In a nutshell, GGG today is on a bigger platform and further into his career than B-Hop was in 1997.

That and the fact that no reasonable boxing fan puts Dominic Wade on the same level as Glen Johnson. That's insane.

Sorry dude it is what it is but good debate otherwise.