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Would You Watch More MMA if There Were NO Wrestling/Grappling/GroundFighting?
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Originally posted by beastoverhand View PostI have often wondered how much more successful UFC could have been if they eliminated all the "ground fighting" (wrestling, grappling, rolling around looking for a tap-out, ground & pound, etc.). If it were purely a stand-up striking game, with some sort of knock-down system. Only punches, elbows, kicks, and knees are allowed.
Just about all of the fight fans I have had discussions with agree that the "ground game" in UFC is a major turn-off. Not many fight fans like to watch 2 guys rolling around on the ground looking for a tap-out, and nobody wants to see their favorite fighter being forced to submit from some lame-@ss armbar or w/e.
So, I'm curious, how many of you would watch more MMA if they eliminated the ground-game completely and implemented a knock-down system?
You do realize that boxing before gloves was basically MMA without the ground game. You could grab and throw an opponent - that was legal. You could forearm him - that was legal. You could throw him and forearm him as you were going down - that was legal.
There was no ground game so you couldn't ground and pound and kick and stuff. At that point the round was over (unlike MMA) and a new one started 30 seconds later.
I, for one, would really like to see how this would play out.
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Originally posted by bklynboy View PostYou do realize that boxing before gloves was basically MMA without the ground game. You could grab and throw an opponent - that was legal. You could forearm him - that was legal. You could throw him and forearm him as you were going down - that was legal.
There was no ground game so you couldn't ground and pound and kick and stuff. At that point the round was over (unlike MMA) and a new one started 30 seconds later.
I, for one, would really like to see how this would play out.
Kickboxing..
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i would mma is only interesting to watch for the first minute and a half after that it's like the cable services troll you and switch it to gay ****
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Originally posted by beastoverhand View PostWithout kicks, knees, and elbows too.
I'm talking about more than just Kickboxing here, full contact rules in American Kickboxing and International Kickboxing forbid striking with knees and elbows (rules vary by region, some allow knees). I'm basically talking about UFC without ground-fighting, stricter rules on holding/grappling, encouraging and focusing on more stand-up striking, etc.
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Originally posted by beastoverhand View PostWithout kicks, knees, and elbows too.
What wasn't allowed were blows below the waist or use of feet or leges. Above the waist only eye gouging and fishhooking were grounds for DQ. Hairpulling was "dirty" but not grounds for immediate DQ. John L Sullivan (the first gloved champion) fought a few bare knuckle (although he hated it) and in one fight he almost lost because his opponent grabbed on to his mustache, twisted his head and started pummeling him.
I would be really curious to see these rules revised.
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That's the main reason I don't really watch MMA. Striking is the best part, and boxing/muay thai are much better at it.
So if you took the ground game out of MMA there wouldn't really be any point to it at all. What would be its purpose?
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