Ariza: "Floyd Sr. doesnt understand, he never finished High School"

[Living Legend]

I agree 100%.. Thats what I have been saying. Only uneducated people would accuse someone of doing something without proof.

District Attorneys accuse people of crimes everyday without proof, so what are you talking about? That being said, it sounds like they are feeding pacqauio steroids calling it supplements..

[Alibata]

District Attorneys accuse people of crimes everyday without proof, so what are you talking about? That being said, it sounds like they are feeding pacqauio steroids calling it supplements..

Yeah you can't bring anyone to court without evidence. Attorneys don't look at a black man and say he is a criminal because he is from compton. Yet an uneducated **** might just shoot you for wearing the wrong color assuming your the dude that hit up his homie because his cousin told him so. You can't win a trial without evidence and you can't assume someone is guilty till it is proven. If Pac was a criminal and the evidence you present is the type you are ranting on these boards about, the judge would laugh at you and fine you for wasting the court's time. You hear about innocent kids being killed, high school students with so much potential getting shot on the streets because people don't know any better. That is the world Floyd is from. Uneducated. All those who are quick to side with Floyd are just as ignorant and uneducated as he is.

[Bobby Shaw]

“we use supplements, not steroids. Someone who never finished high school, like floyd mayweather sr., wouldn’t understand the difference and that’s why they make dumb comments.”

manila, philippines - no matter how much miguel cotto weighs, conditioning coach alex ariza said the other day manny pacquiao will be bigger and stronger than he ever was in his bid to become the first fighter in history to win seven world titles in seven different divisions.

Pacquiao will shoot for the record when he faces cotto who is defending his wbo welterweight crown at the mgm grand garden arena in las vegas on saturday night (sunday morning, manila).

Ariza, 34, was hired by pacquiao to join his team in preparing for the david diaz fight for the wbc lightweight title last year. The colombian did such a good job in firming up pacquiao’s body that he was retained as the conditioning coach for the oscar de la hoya, ricky hatton and cotto fights.
“i like what alex is doing,” pacquiao once said. “when i was an amateur, the approach in training was similar. But as a pro, this was the first time i was exposed to scientific strength and conditioning.”

ariza’s hiit (high-intensity intervolt training) system is the comprehensive approach that he introduced to pacquiao. The system zeroes in on fast-twitch muscle fibers to enhance explosiveness and applies nutritional values to reach an ideal body composition. It is supported by a monitoring program where heartbeat, pulse, body fat and recovery rate, among others, are closely checked.

“there’s no problem with manny’s weight,” said ariza in an overseas telephone interview. “manny’s body is now used to our system. It’s muscle memory at work. He recovered very quickly after the hatton fight and it wasn’t difficult getting back on track in training for cotto. Manny will be bigger and stronger than ever when he fights cotto.”

ariza said he works closely with two associates teri tom of ucla and andrea macias of san diego state in formulating pacquiao’s conditioning program. “i run everything through teri and andrea so we cover all the aspects, including nutrition, isometric exercises and muscle build-up. Our program isn’t the work of any one person. It’s a team effort.”

ariza called it a “catch 22” situation in analyzing what a fighter goes through in either gaining or losing weight. “i can’t tell you what’s harder – to gain or lose weight,” he said. “when you go up or down, you lose something either way, sometimes in terms of speed or power. Your body has to make the adjustments right away and that’s where nutrition comes in. With manny, it’s not a problem. We let him eat what he wants, even high calorie food sometimes because he needs about 5,000 calories a day anyway. He’s a workhorse. What he does in training for six weeks is probably what a normal fighter does in training for a year. That’s how hard he works.”

ariza said the hiit system builds functional muscles and is complemented by a diet that tom prepares. “we want manny to be explosive and we want him to build up muscle in moving up to 145 pounds,” he said. “we use supplements, not steroids. Someone who never finished high school, like floyd mayweather sr., wouldn’t understand the difference and that’s why they make dumb comments.”

ariza said tom would’ve joined the training team in baguio but she couldn’t make it. “we were communicating by computer because she monitors manny’s body composition,” he said. “we just reinforced what she’s worked on with manny.”

allaying fears that cotto’s size may be too imposing, ariza said de la hoya and hatton were also bigger than pacquiao but they were stopped just the same. “there’s no concern that manny might not be able to bring up his power to welterweight,” said ariza. “some people thought manny wouldn’t be able to hurt hatton because he’s so big. When manny took him out in two rounds, they called him a shot fighter. Manny just has to prove it all over again against cotto.”

as for his ability to take the power of a bigger opponent, ariza said pacquiao feasted on sparring partners who outweighed him by 15 to 20 pounds. “it made no difference,” said ariza. “shawn porter and jose luis castillo are so much bigger than manny but they couldn’t bring him down and manny could take what they dished out. It’ll be the same with cotto.”

did mr pacquiao finish high school?

[Alibata]

did mr pacquiao finish high school?

He got like a ged or some **** because he is taking college courses required for him to be respected as a politician. The dude recognizes the value of education at least.

[Living Legend]

Yeah you can't bring anyone to court without evidence. Attorneys don't look at a black man and say he is a criminal because he is from compton. Yet an uneducated **** might just shoot you for wearing the wrong color assuming your the dude that hit up his homie because his cousin told him so. You can't win a trial without evidence and you can't assume someone is guilty till it is proven. If Pac was a criminal and the evidence you present is the type you are ranting on these boards about, the judge would laugh at you and fine you for wasting the court's time. You hear about innocent kids being killed, high school students with so much potential getting shot on the streets because people don't know any better. That is the world Floyd is from. Uneducated. All those who are quick to side with Floyd are just as ignorant and uneducated as he is.

So you automatically ass-ume you are more educated than I... So you are a grad student am I correct? I haven't presented any evidence, but I will say where there is smoke there is fire. I like pacqauio as a fighter but I will say after many years of boxing Mosley started to look "swole" and folks said "oh he is lifting weights now" but he has been linked to a cheating trainer, who tarined others than have been banned from their respective sports for P.E.D's. Now I look a pacqauio how is also a long time fighter who is starting to look "swole" also and there are rumors of his trainer being a past cheater, so am I just to completely overlook this because I like Pacqauio as a fighter... And you go on some tangent about kids being killed in the street and that's where mayweather is from, actually it's not, that's why he has been in gym since he could damn near stand, because his dad wanted him away from that way of life...but you wouldn't really understand because you are a hating ass lame... But back on the education tip, post your college degree and GPA and I will post mine...

[Eastbay Giant]

There are a lot of ignorant people in the world, educated or not. I find it comedy, that so many on this board are quick to disrespect Mayweather Sr like his claim is baseless but ignore the obvious fact that plagues professional sport in general. Unlike the NFL, or other professional sports boxing does not have an strict steroid policy. Honestly, Ariza shoots himself in the foot with his assertion of SUPPLEMENTS being used instead of STEROIDS. You don't have to have a high school degree, and work in professional to know that supplements can contain steroids. Too much Pac dick riding going on to be objective I see, but if you only have book sense instead of common sense I guess responses like what I've read is to be expected.

Study finds steroids, illegal stimulants in supplements

By A.J. Perez, USA TODAY
Obafemi Ayanbadejo went through a list of ingredients when he shopped for supplements last January and found nothing objectionable. An NFL drug test later that month proved otherwise...

"A failed drug test is a bigger black eye than a DUI," says Ayanbadejo, a fullback and special teams player who tested positive for a form of the steroid nandrolone and received a four-game suspension. "In my case, people ran away from me saying, 'He failed a test for performance-enhancing drugs. He's cheating. He's really trying to get an advantage on the field.' "

Ayanbadejo, released by the Arizona Cardinals soon after the failed tests and still searching for a club after a stint with the Chicago Bears, isn't the first athlete to say a positive drug test could be traced to a contaminated supplement. Tampa Bay outfielder Alex Sanchez in 2005 and San Diego Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman in 2006 said the same after positive tests.

"It became answer 1-A in the textbook for athletes who got pinched in a drug test: Point the finger at a dietary supplement company," says Daniel Fabricant, vice president of scientific and regulatory affairs for the Natural Products Association. "It's gotten to where it's become ludicrous."

Maybe not. A study set to be released Wednesday, obtained by USA TODAY and commissioned by Informed-Choice, a non-profit coalition of U.S. supplements companies, shows 13 of 52 supplements tested between July 2006 and January 2007 at a British lab had small amounts of steroids banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency and all major sports leagues.

Six supplements had measurable amounts of ephedrine, a stimulant banished from the market after it was thought to be a factor in the deaths of Minnesota Vikings offensive lineman Korey Stringer and Baltimore Orioles minor league pitcher Steve Bechler this decade.

"This is very eye-opening," says New York-based internist Gary Wadler, a member of WADA's Prohibited List and Methods Sub-Committee. "Clearly, the data suggests things aren't fine. Either the laws are not there or they're not being enforced."

The real danger, beyond athlete suspensions, is the harm that could come from the steroids and stimulants found in the supplements.

"Everything is a factor of dosage and duration," Wadler says. "If you're not being drug-tested, you could be consuming these supplements without knowing you're taking anabolic steroids. The risk to your health is real."

Under the U.S. Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994, supplements do not fall under the same Food and Drug Administration approval process as prescription drugs. The FDA can take action only if a supplement is found to be unsafe after it reaches the market, as happened with the supplements containing ephedrine.

As the natural product industry ballooned to an estimated $22.5 billion in annual sales, according to trade journal Natural Foods Merchandiser, the laws remained largely untouched. But over the last year, federal lawmakers have mandated closer monitoring of the industry that should, the FDA says, lead to safer supplements.

Starting Dec. 22, supplement companies are required to report "serious" adverse effects of their products to the FDA, including resulting hospitalization, disability and death.

More stringent "good manufacturing practices" began to roll out in August "so that consumers can be confident that the products they purchase contain what is on the label," FDA Commissioner Andrew C. von Eschenbach said in a statement in June. All supplements companies must comply by June 2010.

The FDA "is always concerned about products that may put the public health at risk," spokeswoman Kimberly Rawlings said. "When FDA learns of a product that is adulterated or misbranded, including a dietary supplement, we will take the appropriate action to protect the public health."

Popular retailers involved

It wasn't the fringe elements of the supplements industry that Informed-Choice and its lab targeted. Their representatives traveled to various retail stores around the USA and a couple of popular online stores — and purchased supplements they thought a high school athlete would be interested in, according to Dave Hall, chief executive of HFL, a UK-based lab that conducted the study.

Names of the specific supplements and where they were purchased weren't revealed, but Hall says some of the best-selling supplements were purchased from popular retailers. Informed-Choice awards a seal to supplements makers whose products are tested through HFL. Executive director Kelly Hoffman says the goal is to get more companies involved in the movement, not to single out any one company.

"Naturally, no reputable company wants even trace elements of an unsafe substance in its products," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, a longtime advocate for the supplements industry, said in a statement Wednesday. "By law, supplements cannot contain steroids. It's illegal and that product is no longer considered a nutritional supplement, it's an adulterated product."

Contamination or tainted raw materials could be one culprit, but there could be a more nefarious explanation. "It's very possible a few companies could be putting steroids into their products" intentionally, says Jeffrey Stout, director of the University of Oklahoma's Metabolic and Human Body Composition Laboratories. "People get phenomenal results and then word spreads. Suddenly, the product becomes a big deal and it's flying off the shelves."

"I don't think it's a large problem at all," says David Seckman, executive director and CEO of the Natural Products Association. "Organizations like ours have standards. There are going to be people out there with their own Internet site that don't want to be part of an organization like ours. That's a very small percentage."

Ayanbadejo considers lawsuit

It's not known whether ALRI Industries' Max LMG, the supplement Ayanbadejo says he took, was tested. Ayanbadejo says he took the supplement with the words "Muscle Strength Hardness" emblazoned on the bottle for three weeks in January.

ALRI owner Author Rea says Max LMG stopped making the product in 2005, well before the study commenced. He said in an e-mail the product is still legal today, but he halted production because of "political hype demonizing (the) legal personal choice for non-competing individuals."

"I think the company was trying to be cute by creating something that mimics a banned substance," Ayanbadejo says. "It was labeled and nothing harmful was listed. A lot of companies tell you in one way or another that you should stay away from it if you're going to be tested."

Ayanbadejo says he's considering taking legal action against ALRI.

Rea says Ayanbadejo should have followed the NFL's supplement program, which steers players to products made by EAS. Baseball has a similar program with supplement maker NSF. Other leagues either dissuade their players from taking supplements or point players toward the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency for information.

"The response of the players to this program has been very positive," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says. "The Players Association strongly endorses it and players on nearly every team have ordered products approved under the certification program. Most players appreciate the program."

Beyond Informed-Choice, other industry groups have offered a seal to show consumers a supplement has been tested and the company follows stricter manufacturing practices.

GNC, the nation's largest nutritional product chain, says it heavily tests its products and third-party companies need to provide certificates of analysis before their products can be sold, according to Gerald J. Stubenhofer Jr., senior vice president and chief legal counsel.

"GNC only deals with the most reputable vendors in the industry," Stubenhofer says.

The Informed-Choice study, however, shows how tenuous that reliance can be.

[S A M U R A I]

but I will say where there is smoke there is fire.

There's smoke when I'm having a cigarette. Nothing shady going on there. I'm just "having a f@g" as they say in England.

I smoked ten **** in a row once. LMAO.



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[sycomantz]

ariza is a dumbass. i guess ariza never finished jr high

roids are supplements too

sup·ple·ment (spl-mnt)
n.
1. Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole.
2. A section added to a book or document to give further information or to correct errors.
3. A separate section devoted to a special subject inserted into a periodical, such as a newspaper.
4. Mathematics The angle or arc that when added to a given angle or arc makes 180° or a semicircle. Also called supplementary angle.

[FranjoTuđman]

ARIZA punked that clown.

HEROIN TRAFFICER SR. is gonna cry.

[S A M U R A I]

Honestly, Ariza shoots himself in the foot with his assertion of SUPPLEMENTS being used instead of STEROIDS.

How so? Wouldn't it just be easier to say nothing? If he had something to hide, why bother saying he uses any supplements?



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