C'mon people, Bhop (and maybe even Pacquiao) would still be ahead of FMJ if he beat Ortiz and Pacquiao then retired. I'm a Mayweather fan.
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If Floyd beats Ortiz and Pacquiao does he retire as the greatest fighter of our time?
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostDont mention Baldy as he is real bad with how many losses?
What does the fact he's a 'big guy' have to do with anything?
Case in point; Floyd's win over Baldomir. Who is a 'big guy'.
Him being a big guy doesn't change the fact it's not a win that's going to enhance his legacy. Just like Margarito for Pac.
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostHatton was p4p, as was Cotto, as was DLH, as was Barreara and JMM.
Hatton, Cotto, Barerra and Marquez were all ranked in the Top 10 P4P, though.
Then again; Mosley, Hatton and Corrales were in the Top 10 P4P when Floyd fought them. (As was Marquez but again for obvious reasons that doesn't count)
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostNo, i think Pac has more.
If so, no, he doesn't. They both have 2.
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostBut why cant Floyd just not be so cautious all the time.
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostHe has to get credit on a tecnicality all the time. How often do you hear he beat Hatton first. That is all floyd fans can say, scraping the bottom of the barrell.
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostFloyds got a lot to prove, and he knows what hes got to do, so why dont you just allow him to do it? Stop making excuses for the guy he is a big boy.
I know that's hard to hear for you, though.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostCase in point; Floyd's win over Baldomir. Who is a 'big guy'.
Him being a big guy doesn't change the fact it's not a win that's going to enhance his legacy. Just like Margarito for Pac..
Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostDe La Hoya? De La Hoya was not in the Top 10 P4P when he fought Pac. And wasn't considered to be for many years prior to that.
Hatton, Cotto, Barerra and Marquez were all ranked in the Top 10 P4P, though.
Then again; Mosley, Hatton and Corrales were in the Top 10 P4P when Floyd fought them. (As was Marquez but again for obvious reasons that doesn't count)
Has more what? Fighters on his resume who were in the Top 5 P4P?
If so, no, he doesn't. They both have 2..
Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
He hasn't got alot to prove. If he beats Pac he will be probably considered greater than Pac, or atleast close.
I know that's hard to hear for you, though.
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Why anybody responses to that idiot Hugh Grant is beyond me. He's in the top 10 of worst posters on this site. He's an idiot who doesn't know anything about the sport. He's a troll. No need to respond to him. I don't even read his crappy posts anymore.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostBut Margarito is a big guy that people think FLoyd ducked. Surely that is in Pacs favour that he retired the guy FLoyd tried to avoid.
Why is this so difficult to grasp?
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostBut Pac beat more ATGs. Has Floyd ever beaten one yet as a matter of fact.
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostOh yeah, probably DLH. And maybe i remember incorrectly that DLH became a p4p on the basis of taking Floyd so close.
Talk about reaching.
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostFirst things first is beat Sergio martinez. Last thing i heard was Sergio snatched Floyds no2 position. WHats floyd going to do about that ya think? I think he should beat Sergio and shout how dare you have the audacity to take my no2 spot?
Floyd will most likely move back to P4P #2 after the Ortiz fight (assuming he wins)
And this still doesn't change the fact that if Floyd beats Ortiz and Pac he will most likely be considered greater than Pac. Or atleast close.
Don't lose too much sleep over it. That's a big if.Last edited by IronDanHamza; 06-12-2011, 07:36 PM.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostWhy anybody responses to that idiot Hugh Grant is beyond me. He's in the top 10 of worst posters on this site. He's an idiot who doesn't know anything about the sport. He's a troll. No need to respond to him. I don't even read his crappy posts anymore.Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostPac and Floyd, Pac is the greater fighter. He's resume and accomplishment is greater than Floyd. However, Floyd is the better fighter, he's more skilled. And, in a H2H match up Floyd probably would win. But, if we're talking about who's greater. It's Pac..
Says the pernel witaker fan who says Floyd is a better fighter than Pac because he has more skills than Pac. Well, everyone seems to have more skills than Pac, but Pac still beats them.Last edited by hugh grant; 06-13-2011, 06:55 AM.
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