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Eddie Hearn: Froch vs Ward II will be a different fight in the UK
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Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostMeaning they'll be fighting in a phone-booth (see Dirrell/Bute fights) and the winner will be decided beforehand. Why should the champion have to travel to the challenger's backyard? I'm sure Ward is smart enough to pass on that offer.
Each fighter would put their 2 belts on the line this time.
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Originally posted by F!x View PostFroch is the champion too since he beat Bute for the IBF title. If he beats Kessler then he'll be the IBF and WBA champion. After that, a rematch in the UK with Ward is not only reasonable but also fair since Froch traveled to the US for the first fight and Ward had home advantage.
Each fighter would put their 2 belts on the line this time.
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Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostWrong, there is only one champion at 168 (see: Super Six Final), title belts are irrelevant and we've already seen how this fight plays out, no need to see it again. The only reason why Froch and Hearn want this fight in England is because they believe they can rob Ward there, just like they robbed Dirrell.
Ward never cleared out Bute, who at the time was actually ranked #1 by many organisations and publications, Ward would not leave oakland to fight a guy who was considered extremley dangerous at the time.
Ward doesn't get "credit" for Froch's win, so as it stands Froch is a legitimate champion, for Ward to be undisputed, he needs to beat Froch again regardless.
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Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostWrong, there is only one champion at 168 (see: Super Six Final), title belts are irrelevant and we've already seen how this fight plays out, no need to see it again. The only reason why Froch and Hearn want this fight in England is because they believe they can rob Ward there, just like they robbed Dirrell.
Ali vs Frazier 2
Lewis vs Rahman 2
Pacquiao vs Marquez 4
Cotto vs Margarito 2
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Originally posted by Earl Hickey View PostWrong
Ward never cleared out Bute, who at the time was actually ranked #1 by many organisations and publications, Ward would not leave oakland to fight a guy who was considered extremley dangerous at the time.
Ward doesn't get "credit" for Froch's win, so as it stands Froch is a legitimate champion, for Ward to be undisputed, he needs to beat Froch again regardless.
When Ward fought Froch at the Super Six Final they were the #1 and #2 super middleweights respectively. By beating Froch, Ward became the lineal champion. I shouldn't have to explain this...
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Originally posted by F!x View PostNot the best logic I've seen a person use and very inaccurate. Anyone who has been watching boxing for more than a short time knows that rematches can have a very different outcome - for proof of that just watch:
Ali vs Frazier 2
Lewis vs Rahman 2
Pacquiao vs Marquez 4
Cotto vs Margarito 2
Honestly, I don't really have much of a problem with a rematch so long as Froch beats Kessler in a fair fight (which I think he will). What I'm against is have the lineal champion travel to the challenger's (who he's already beat w/o controversy in a near shutout) backyard.
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Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post??? Bute was a hypejob who refused to take part in the Super Six. I'm not really sure what his best win was either... Glen Johnson?
When Ward fought Froch at the Super Six Final they were the #1 and #2 super middleweights respectively. By beating Froch, Ward became the lineal champion. I shouldn't have to explain this...
You should really check your facts, Froch/Ward was #1 vs #3, Bute Froch was #2 vs #3.
#1 vs #2 has never happened yet, and you cant retrospectively upgrade Froch's ranking at the time of the Ward fight
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Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostSo Froch wins three rounds tops..
What I'm against is have the lineal champion travel to the challenger's (who he's already beat w/o controversy in a near shutout) backyard.
As far as Ward traveling, it's the right thing to do since Froch traveled to the US for the first fight (when they were both champions at the time too). Froch didn't have to do that either but he did it. Ward should show the same sort of bravery and respect for Froch in the second fight, just like Kessler is doing, he beat Froch in Denmark he's now traveling to the UK for the rematch.
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