Scorcese of the last twenty years?

All this talk of where Scorcese stands in the list of greatest film directors of all time reminds me what I was saying the other day about how discussion of film on here invariably comes down to an incredibly small frame of reference: generally, mainstream Hollywood, 1980-2014.

If you look at any accepted list of greatest pioneering directors, they're from a pre-60s era, and international. Scorcese wouldn't even be ranked in the top ten Fat Yank directors, let alone internationally. (People putting up Tarantino as a possible rival... I love Tarantino movies, but come on now...)

Just check out some of these other directors. Now, if you haven't seen them, that's cool. But you really shouldn't be talking about "greatest directors of all time" when you haven't studied the medium. Come on.

Jean-Luc Godard
Jean Renoir
Satyajit Ray
Sergei Eisenstein
Ingmar Bergman
Akira Kurosawa
Federico Fellini
Yasujiro Ozu
Vittorio De Sica
Carl Theodor Dreyer

What's ****ing hilarious is that some stupid **** sucker will now reply to this, saying "yo, u just want us 2 talk about british movie's"... despite the fact that I've just listed ten film directors and not ONE of them is from the UK.

[BrushMyCage]

most of scorsese's films has 'mainstream appeal' to it. once you checked out these other so called non mainstream style of movie making/directors, its kind of liberating and you wont look at cinema in the same way again.

Exactly a month since I made this thread, and I STILL haven't finished Wolf of Wall Street.

I dunno why it is. When it's on, I'm finding it okay, but... it just doesn't hook me.

DiCaprio (horribly over the top) just isn't a likeable character, so who do you root for?

If the film was 2, maybe 2.5 hours long, it'd be different. But three hours of a very repetitious screenplay, and it gets dull.


"I poured coke over a dwarf's head and stuck it up my asshole while fucking the neighbour's cat. We were making ten billion an hour doing this, and we didn't give a shit."

[Sweet Pea 50]

Exactly a month since I made this thread, and I STILL haven't finished Wolf of Wall Street.

I dunno why it is. When it's on, I'm finding it okay, but... it just doesn't hook me.

DiCaprio (horribly over the top) just isn't a likeable character, so who do you root for?

If the film was 2, maybe 2.5 hours long, it'd be different. But three hours of a very repetitious screenplay, and it gets dull.


"I poured coke over a dwarf's head and stuck it up my asshole while fucking the neighbour's cat. We were making ten billion an hour doing this, and we didn't give a shit."

I agree with you about the film needing a bit more time in the editing room.

[Croyd]

I love Scorcese films. Seen 'em all up to and including Cape Fear, even the shorts he did.

But the last twenty years... has he gone off, by his own standards? 1993-2013?

Eight films, and, I have to admit, I haven't yet seen four of them. Fair play, the guy's 71. How many 71-year-olds do you know that remember to get up and go to the toilet before they take a piss, let alone direct something as good as Casino?

I've seen Casino get slated a lot, actually. I think it's comparative, as I guess we'd seen it before, but I think that one's terrific. His current obsession with DiCaprio I find a little odd. I don't mind Leo, but he looks like 12, and always seems to me to be ACTING, you know what I mean?

The Departed was good, but only average by Marty's standards... I always felt its Oscar was a political "****, we never gave him one for his really good films, did we? We'd better give the **** one before he dies."

Gangs of New York I've also seen heavily slated by critics... I thought it was okay, but can't remember a thing about it. The thing with these films is, they're better than 90% of everyone else's movies, but maybe inferior to 90% of Scorcese movies.


Anyway, I made this thread mainly because I'm struggling through The Wolf of Wall Street. It's watchable and stuff, but at three hours I'm just finding it a slog. Its constant theme of "we had money, and spent the ****" gets a bit wearying, you know? It's like every scene has a voiceover from an overacting DeCaprio going:

"And then I bought a yacht, which I just stuck up my ass while I injected heroin into my eyeballs. Anything to make a sale... we just cared about the dollar, and didn't give a shit about our customers. For a party I snorted up three tonnes of cocaine and hired a disabled girl with only half her arms to stick them up my ass. I didn't call it being fisted, I called it being stumped. Afterwards I got back home and fucked the dog in its asshole, just because I could. Did I mention I made money?"

Should you give a ****, my top three Scorcese movies are:

1. After Hours (yeah, really)
2. Taxi Driver
3. Raging Bull

Bolded some statements that I will respond to.

Leo is overacting, the problem with this isn't that he does it bad , it's that he does it too much and when a really good scene calls for him to put it all in , we've already seen it 10-20 times in the same movie. Not sure if it's the director's fault or his but it kills excellent scenes when you see too much off it.

Gangs of New York kinda dragged on for me , I never found myself invested in the main characters (the dude that was hung on a fence in the middle of 5 points,couldn't care less).

I was entertained by the Wolf of Wallstreet but I have already watched Goodfellas. It's pretty much the same thing except a different style of living(no guns, no ones getting whacked, no imminent feeling of danger)

[ßringer]

All this talk of where Scorcese stands in the list of greatest film directors of all time reminds me what I was saying the other day about how discussion of film on here invariably comes down to an incredibly small frame of reference: generally, mainstream Hollywood, 1980-2014.

If you look at any accepted list of greatest pioneering directors, they're from a pre-60s era, and international. Scorcese wouldn't even be ranked in the top ten Fat Yank directors, let alone internationally. (People putting up Tarantino as a possible rival... I love Tarantino movies, but come on now...)

Just check out some of these other directors. Now, if you haven't seen them, that's cool. But you really shouldn't be talking about "greatest directors of all time" when you haven't studied the medium. Come on.

Jean-Luc Godard
Jean Renoir
Satyajit Ray
Sergei Eisenstein
Ingmar Bergman
Akira Kurosawa
Federico Fellini
Yasujiro Ozu
Vittorio De Sica
Carl Theodor Dreyer

What's ****ing hilarious is that some stupid **** sucker will now reply to this, saying "yo, u just want us 2 talk about british movie's"... despite the fact that I've just listed ten film directors and not ONE of them is from the UK.

No mention of Sergio Leone.

I am disappoint.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

goodfellas
casino
Wolf of wallstreet
Departed

Some of the best movies ever made.. Great Filmaker

[Croyd]

No mention of Sergio Leone.

I am disappoint.

One of my favorite directors, The Good , the Bad,and the Ugly is one of my favorite tragic/western/comedy/dramas.

[ßringer]

One of my favorite directors, The Good , the Bad,and the Ugly is one of my favorite tragic/western/comedy/dramas.

Leone and Kubrick are my favorite directors of all time.

'The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly' is my favorite film ever.

Also, a highly underrated Leone film - 'Once Upon A Time In America.'

My pick for the greatest "gangster" movie of all time.

[Croyd]

Leone and Kubrick are my favorite directors of all time.

'The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly' is my favorite film ever.

Also, a highly underrated Leone film - 'Once Upon A Time In America.'

My pick for the greatest "gangster" movie of all time.

Yeah I remember Once upon a Time , didn't know it was Sergio, last time I saw it must have been the early 80's though. I remember it having a strange ending that I couldn't quite figure it out(was about 5-8 years old then), I might need to rewatch it.