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Is Vitali Klitschko an ATG?
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Originally posted by Sage84 View PostI have always agreed that to be great you have to beat a great, which is why the HW's of old were so good. Lots of greats in the same era, with everyone beating each other.
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It really is shocking to look at Vitali's resume and see how weak it is. You would think it was better, but its really poor. The only thing saving it is that he smashed the fighters he was supposed to smash, except for a couple.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostIt really is shocking to look at Vitali's resume and see how weak it is. You would think it was better, but its really poor. The only thing saving it is that he smashed the fighters he was supposed to smash, except for a couple.
I mean we have people on here who say Wlad and Vitali's are ATG's, but that Oscar De La Hoya isn't. That is SHOCKING.
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostHis resume doesn't put him anywhere close to the Top 100 All-Time, which is ATG to me. H2H, sure.
You just get butt hurt when someone disagree's with you.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostJunior Gong made same point in the other thread that Vitali's resume stinks but H2H he'd pick Vitali over a lot of the ATG HWT's.
If that's the case, Joe Louis isn't an ATG and Floyd Mayweather is without question in the Top 10. Of course that's not true, as Joe Louis is in the Top 5/10 all-time and Floyd is around the Top 30 or so, not close to the Top 10.
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostI'll put Wlad's resume in the Top 20 HW's, but to me neither if them have Top 100 resume's All-Time, which is ATG to me.
I mean we have people on here who say Wlad and Vitali's are ATG's, but that Oscar De La Hoya isn't. That is SHOCKING.
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its a pity the klits aren't father and son rather than brothers, it means they both kinda take from the other's greatness. If vitali had been around in say the 80's and early 90's and then wlad in the late 90's to now, they would both be their own men as it were, but as it stands they divide the contenders between them, with wlad usually taking on the higher standard of guys. Vitali has never been able to call himself the best in the world, (despite the fact that for a time he probably was) he's never been able to prove it cause he can't fight the best in the division ie his brother. The fact that there are no great wins on his record is a pity cause I'm sure he'd give any of the ATG's a real tough fight.
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