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  • #21
    Originally posted by RossCA View Post
    Who could possibly beat him besides Wlad? I think he'd be the second best out there and there is a decent chance he stops Wlad with a punchers chance.
    He almost got knocked out by an old Bonecrusher and he lost to some bum due to an asthma attack or something. It's not really a question of who he's better than. It's that he wouldn't consistently beat the best without losing. I still think Vitali beats him. And he wouldn't be good enough to run through Povetkin, Solis, Price, Fury, Haye, and Pulev without picking up some loses. Wilder actually reminds me of Ruddock some. We'll see how far he gets.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
      Ruddock never beat anyone nearly as good as Wladimir. The closest guy he fought that resembled him was Lewis, who beat him quickly and easily. Ruddock was a predictable one trick pony who could never beat a smart fighter like Klitschko. Be honest, you just overrate him because it makes Tyson look better.
      you are unequivocally one of the stupidest posters on this forum

      Wladimir beating cans, bums and no hopers that no one has ever heard of would only make fools like you wet themselves

      Ruddock had better competition than "the glass" and better wins ... his win over Dokes alone is better than both Klit's careers combined and his win over Smith solidifies this fact.

      How is Klitschko smart? His ring intelligence centers around protecting his glass jaw ... any idiot with that kind of jaw could have figured out to protect it .. he's continuously shows his stupidity when he punches himself out and still has regular panic attacks whenever someone gets close to striking his glass ...

      Ruddock had fast hands and deadly power ... the glass couldn't even handle a 40 year old retired golfers speed and power, he would get raped if he ever fought Ruddock ... Dokes who had an iron chin needed oxygen after he was destroyed by Ruddock ... Waldo would be put into intensive care and would be effectively retired

      Ruddock fought Lewis after having his jaw and ribs fractured ... he himself said that his fights with Tyson took everything out of him
      Last edited by TysonBomb; 01-02-2013, 09:29 PM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by TysonBomb View Post

        Wladimir beating cans, bums and no hopers that no one has ever heard of would only make fools like you wet themselves

        Ruddock had better competition than "the glass" and better wins ... his win over Dokes alone is better than both Klit's careers combined and his win over Smith solidifies this fact.
        Dokes and Ruddock were damn near cans by the time those fights happened. Not even sure if they'd be top ten wins for either Klit.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View Post
          Dokes and Ruddock were damn near cans by the time those fights happened. Not even sure if they'd be top ten wins for either Klit.
          He was coming off a competitive fight against Holyfield before that and still carried the reputation of having a great chin

          Still MUCH BETTER than most of Klits opponents ... only in Klitschko land are Calvin Brock, 40 year old Tony Thompson, Hepatitis B positive Ruslan Chagaev, and "not a true heavyweight" according to Klits own admission David Haye quality opponents

          None of those guys would be any thing more than journeymen in the late 80s or 90s ...
          Last edited by TysonBomb; 01-02-2013, 09:45 PM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by TysonBomb View Post
            He was coming off a competitive fight against Holyfield before that and still carried the reputation of having a great chin

            Still MUCH BETTER than most of Klits opponents ... only in Klitschko land are Calvin Brock, 40 year old Tony Thompson, Hepatitis B positive Ruslan Chagaev, and "not a true heavyweight" according to Klits own admission David Haye quality opponents
            Bonecrusher was finished by the time Ruddock got him and still almost knocked him out.

            Dokes hadn't had a good win since beating Weaver 8 years before he fought Ruddock. He traded toe to toe like a dumbass against Holy in the last meaningful performance of his career. This is from the period when Holy made damn near everyone he fought look good because of his lack of defense and one punch power (Cooper, Stewart, old Foreman, old Holmes, etc.).

            Dokes would be roughly a bottom of the top ten win for Vitali and a top 15 win for Wlad. Bonecrusher was a bum by then and had Razor on his ass.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by TysonBomb View Post
              you are unequivocally one of the stupidest posters on this forum

              Wladimir beating cans, bums and no hopers that no one has ever heard of would only make fools like you wet themselves

              Ruddock had better competition than "the glass" and better wins ... his win over Dokes alone is better than both Klit's careers combined and his win over Smith solidifies this fact.

              How is Klitschko smart? His ring intelligence centers around protecting his glass jaw ... any idiot with that kind of jaw could have figured out to protect it .. he's continuously shows his stupidity when he punches himself out and still has regular panic attacks whenever someone gets close to striking his glass ...

              Ruddock had fast hands and deadly power ... the glass couldn't even handle a 40 year old retired golfers speed and power, he would get raped if he ever fought Ruddock ... Dokes who had an iron chin needed oxygen after he was destroyed by Ruddock ... Waldo would be put into intensive care and would be effectively retired

              Ruddock fought Lewis after having his jaw and ribs fractured ... he himself said that his fights with Tyson took everything out of him

              Look, everyone reading this already knows that you are just another drooling Tyson fanboy. They are nodding their heads while they read this.

              Ruddock never beat ANYONE. Every fighter you ever heard of that he fought either beat him or was past his prime. Dokes was 20 lbs heavier than his previous fight. Smith was in his late 30's and he sucked anyway.

              You keep referring to Wladimir like he was KO'd every year. He is 59-3 and waiting for a worthwhile challenge. He knows how to protect his weaknesses and play to his strength, which already makes him smarter than a dumbass like Ruddock, who never even won a title fight. His last "panic attack" was over seven years ago.

              What a joke that you think Ruddock was fast. Klitschko would beat him to the punch all night long. He didn't even last 4 minutes with a young green Lennox Lewis. It's also funny how you claim that Tyson ruined RR for the Lewis fight. It was 16 ****ing months later! But what should I expect from the ultimate Tyson fanboy, making everything about Mike. :wank:

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View Post
                Bonecrusher was finished by the time Ruddock got him and still almost knocked him out.

                Dokes hadn't had a good win since beating Weaver 8 years before he fought Ruddock. He traded toe to toe like a dumbass against Holy in the last meaningful performance of his career. This is from the period when Holy made damn near everyone he fought look good because of his lack of defense and one punch power (Cooper, Stewart, old Foreman, old Holmes, etc.).

                Dokes would be roughly a bottom of the top ten win for Vitali and a top 15 win for Wlad. Bonecrusher was a bum by then and had Razor on his ass.
                And Shannon Briggs was an ancient punching bag, Haye was a fraud, Chambers wasn't even a real heavyweight, Brewster had one eye and was in a hospital bed for over a year up to the fight.

                GTFO ... that Dokes would be the best or second best win for either Klit. He won against his last 4 opponents between Holyfield and Ruddock.

                Smith started boxing late and was KOed just as violently as Dokes heading face first into the canvas and not moving. Being knocked down shouldn't be used as an argument by someone defending Wladimir Klitschko, who has spent half of his career with his head banging the canvas. Smith had never been down like that in his career and had a solid chin. He took some huge shots from Tyson and was never dropped, despite the fact that he was looking to survive more than fight.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                  Look, everyone reading this already knows that you are just another drooling Tyson fanboy. They are nodding their heads while they read this.

                  Ruddock never beat ANYONE. Every fighter you ever heard of that he fought either beat him or was past his prime. Dokes was 20 lbs heavier than his previous fight. Smith was in his late 30's and he sucked anyway.

                  You keep referring to Wladimir like he was KO'd every year. He is 59-3 and waiting for a worthwhile challenge. He knows how to protect his weaknesses and play to his strength, which already makes him smarter than a dumbass like Ruddock, who never even won a title fight. His last "panic attack" was over seven years ago.

                  What a joke that you think Ruddock was fast. Klitschko would beat him to the punch all night long. He didn't even last 4 minutes with a young green Lennox Lewis. It's also funny how you claim that Tyson ruined RR for the Lewis fight. It was 16 ****ing months later! But what should I expect from the ultimate Tyson fanboy, making everything about Mike. :wank:
                  His last panic attack was against Wach in his last fight, moron. Where once again he nearly punched himself out in true Klitschko fashion but his pathetic punching bag opponent with no skill at all couldn't do anything about it.

                  Ruddock had good hand speed ... far superior to either Klit. Hand speed + power = Wlad's worst nightmare. Look at the way he caught Dokes or Smith with the left hand. He even caught Tyson with those same left handed hooks/uppercuts, who was showing head movement for those fights.

                  Dokes weight regularly fluctuated and he would routinely show up more than 10 pounds heavier or lighter between two consecutive fights. He fought Holyfield just a year earlier and won his last 4 fights before fighting Ruddock. He was still a good fighter and was doing well before the KO ... his chin had always been solid.

                  Ruddock was recovering from a broken jaw and ribs ... show me any fighter that was the same after injuries like that, especially in terms of durability. Tyson ruined his short time as an elite level contender. Even idiots like you should know that Ruddock who had absolutely NO defense and ended up taking huge punches from Tyson for 19 rounds wouldn't be the same. He was nothing for the Lewis fight.

                  Go wet yourself over *****ko's pencil dick somewhere else ******. He isn't ****.
                  Last edited by TysonBomb; 01-02-2013, 10:28 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by TysonBomb View Post
                    His last panic attack was against Wach in his last fight, moron. Where once again he nearly punched himself out in true Klitschko fashion but his pathetic punching bag opponent with no skill at all couldn't do anything about it.

                    Ruddock had good hand speed ... far superior to either Klit. Hand speed + power = Wlad's worst nightmare. Look at the way he caught Dokes or Smith with the left hand. He even caught Tyson with those same left handed hooks/uppercuts, who was showing head movement for those fights.

                    Dokes weight regularly fluctuated and he would routinely show up more than 10 pounds heavier or lighter between two consecutive fights. He fought Holyfield just a year earlier and won his last 4 fights before fighting Ruddock. He was still a good fighter and was doing well before the KO ... his chin had always been solid.

                    Ruddock was recovering from a broken jaw and ribs ... show me any fighter that was the same after injuries like that, especially in terms of durability. Tyson ruined his short time as an elite level contender. Even idiots like you should know that Ruddock who had absolutely NO defense and ended up taking huge punches from Tyson for 19 rounds wouldn't be the same. He was nothing for the Lewis fight.

                    Go wet yourself over *****ko's pencil dick somewhere else ******. He isn't ****.
                    Klitschko had a panic attack in a fight he won every round in?

                    Dokes was fat and bloated when he fought Ruddock. The weights and pictures don't lie. I actually saw these fights live.

                    Ruddock had 16 months and two tune up fights after Tyson. His ribs and jaw were healed fool. Quit basing your entire boxing agenda based on Mike. He didn't even stop Ruddock.

                    Handspeed and power are everyones nightmare TysonBum. And the overhyped Ruddock was slow and stupid. I guess you can relate to that.

                    I'm here to talk boxing with open minded fans. I have no interest in agenda driven fanboys like you.

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                    • #30
                      subtly trolling is so much more effective.

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