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  • #51
    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
    Most top fighters are opportunists when it comes to picking their fights when they're in the position to do so.

    If you want to point the finger at Floyd for doing it, then you have to with Manny too. So taking Cotto at 145 after he had already taken a beating from Margarito wasn't opportunistic? or fighting Hatton when he was basically damaged goods. Also bringing up Marquez for a 3rd fight was opportunistic i think, he looked like he was almost done and they thought they could finally get a clear win over him, only to get a shock and have to get a gift decision, leading to a 4th fight which got him KO'd.

    Floyd may have done it, but Pacquiao was no better. Also it's worth noting that both put themselves in the position to pick and choose by actually beating good opposition on the way up and proving they were great fighters. So let's not dismiss that side of it. Some fighters today want to be that A-side like those 2 forgetting these guys actually fought their way to the top.

    Also, while the last decade of top fighters such as Pac, Canelo, Cotto, Marquez etc..took some wins and loses from each other in some form. Floyd stood alone and never lost, you can't knock that.

    By the way, i don't have much preference between Floyd and Manny, but at least call it for what it is, rather than big one guy up and bring one down when they did similar things.

    Floyd should rightly get some flack for fighting Berto, but it's not really any worse than fighting Rios or Algieri. "well he was coming off a KO loss against Rios", so what, that's Manny's fault for getting KTFO.

    The difference is Manny fought 21 times since 2006 while Floyd fought 14 times.

    Manny too rightfully some tune up fights, Floyd almost fought once a year, so when he fought the Ortiz, Guerrero of the world on PPV, he rightfully received critics.

    + As I stated in pevious posts, Manny is fighting really above his best weight at 147 (135 IMO), people loo at the Margo fight as a fluke.

    But Manny was fighting a killer 6 inches taller and this fight took Something out of him.

    Manny took a lot more risks than Floyd, it's obvious, Max is right.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by larryxxx.... View Post
      So manny fighting Crawford who fights at a lower division is more dangerous then when Floyd moved up to fight Canelo who everyone said he would duck?
      Why the Alvarez win is a legit win Larryx?

      The Cotto win isn't for Pac because of a CW so why Floyd is getting a pass and credited Alvarez's first loss when he fought him at 152?

      He man who could barely make 154 and ended up fighting at 155.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
        Video starts with max saying "...meanwhile they're (boxers) being brain damaged. Right? But thats really what the fans are asking for....."








        Is it a hatred of floyd or your love of manny?
        Either way you're a flaming ****** to suggest boxers should get brain damage for your own entertainment.

        *****.
        ??

        Hey dumbo, it's called hazard pay. That's why boxers are paid high since there is a premium to life. Every time they get into the ring. They risk their life. Part of their profession. Now cherry picking to dodge threats can be done to, but don't expect to be called great for cherry picking. You can't have it both ways brotha' challenging oneself is recognized and rewarded by the fans if he wins. Cherry picking is also recognize by the fans and don't expect the same glory for doing so. You just can't have it both ways. If you take the path of less resistance that's what happens. If you take the path of greatness and challenge oneself, then greatness is deserved.

        But off course you won't get that.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
          Careful.. Max said Floyd beat PAC easily right after the fight. Legally.. The closest to the event/fight is considered more accurate.

          Max is trying to do something... But he is on record for saying ..... Post fight...
          I do believe Max is repenting and realize after post fight scrutiny and evidences pointing to a one armed man out pointing an IV man, he saw how even more pathetic Floyd has become as the boos resonated around the world to the much displease of the boxing world that they would rather see him retired for good.

          Anyway, again your off topic as usual. Stay on course bud. Focus on the topic at hand. The thread is Floyd's cherry picking ways. So stay on course. You sound affected again.

          Do you agree on Max opinion of Floyd's cherry picking ways?

          I don't agree on everything max says, but on this one he was spot on.


          Last edited by Spoon23; 07-26-2016, 05:39 AM.

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          • #55
            The fact is and we must always try and build our arguments on fact, that Max is not wrong here. He may not be 100% right but he is not wrong. Mayweather, by his own admission, did not want to fight the best when they were at their best. He called himself "smart" and "a rich coward". His own words and his own tactics. He played the media and used it to promote himself as a must-see attraction.

            His fans will deny it, even though the man himself refuses to deny it. He knows what he is. He is a street hustler who managed to have exceptional boxing talent and work ethic and managed to maximise it. He knew he couldn't beat certain fighters at certain times or that those guys were too much of a risk, again, by his own admission.

            So he waited it out but in doing so, kept himself as the best physical specimen sport has ever seen. He never got fat, he never took drugs, alcohol, rarely ate bad food etc etc. Other fighters got older, Mayweather got smarter. He also managed to retain his in ring hunger for success whereas other fighters (ahem Pacquiao) saw massive pay checks and fought passively because they didn't want their meal ticket to fade away.

            Sadly, boxing is heading towards a direction where more and more fighters are not taking risks, are not fighting the best and when they do fight a top opponent, it's years after the fight was relevant or when said fighter showed relevant weaknesses. It's damaged the sport and damaged fans, many of whom have not only come to accept this model but also support it.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by intoccabile View Post
              Resume: Pac > Floyd
              Legacy: Pac = Floyd (HIGHLY debatable)
              Fighter: Pac < Floyd

              Not arguing with you. These are simply our opinions. But I'm pretty sure I'm with the majority on this one. Pacs resume > Floyds.
              This one is wrong

              Everyone knows Pac is the true fighter here.

              Fighter: Pac > Floyd

              Boxer: Floyd > Pac

              That said, Pac is a fighter/boxer

              Floyd is a, boxer that's it.

              Pac is a pit bull while Floyd is a Poodle hahaha

              Last edited by Spoon23; 07-26-2016, 06:12 AM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                ??

                Hey dumbo, it's called hazard pay. That's why boxers are paid high since there is a premium to life. Every time they get into the ring. They risk their life. Part of their profession. Now cherry picking to dodge threats can be done to, but don't expect to be called great for cherry picking. You can't have it both ways brotha' challenging oneself is recognized and rewarded by the fans if he wins. Cherry picking is also recognize by the fans and don't expect the same glory for doing so. You just can't have it both ways. If you take the path of less resistance that's what happens. If you take the path of greatness and challenge oneself, then greatness is deserved.

                But off course you won't get that.

                **** off.

                Kellerman is a fraud. He's lost all credibility.

                Kellerman was the ringside commentator for Scottland vs Jones. Kellermen begged for the fight to be stopped -

                "He's taking a brutal beating" “That's it! That's it! That's it!” “too tough for his own good. . . . This is how guys get seriously hurt. . . . I prefer referees who err on the side of caution.”

                - MAX KELLERMAN 2001


                Scottland went into a coma and died.

                Kellerman was an advocate for safety on ESPN.

                Now for the sake of ratings, kellerman Is forced to do a complete 360, so he can provide a counter point for antagonistic Steven a Smith. ****ing disgusting. And pact@rds like you eat it up.

                "What we wanna see is evenly matched fights - brutal fights - where the fighter has to overcome stuff. Improve their heart. Improve their will and determination to win....meanwhile they are being brain damaged. Right? But that's really what the fans are asking for."

                - MAX KELLERMAN 2016

                Sold his soul for ratings and corporate agendas.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                  **** off.

                  Kellerman is a fraud. He's lost all credibility.

                  Kellerman was the ringside commentator for Scottland vs Jones. Kellermen begged for the fight to be stopped -

                  "He's taking a brutal beating" “That's it! That's it! That's it!” “too tough for his own good. . . . This is how guys get seriously hurt. . . . I prefer referees who err on the side of caution.”

                  - MAX KELLERMAN 2001


                  Scottland went into a coma and died.

                  Kellerman was an advocate for safety on ESPN.

                  Now for the sake of ratings, kellerman Is forced to do a complete 360, so he can provide a counter point for antagonistic Steven a Smith. ****ing disgusting. And pact@rds like you eat it up.

                  "What we wanna see is evenly matched fights - brutal fights - where the fighter has to overcome stuff. Improve their heart. Improve their will and determination to win....meanwhile they are being brain damaged. Right? But that's really what the fans are asking for."

                  - MAX KELLERMAN 2016

                  Sold his soul for ratings and corporate agendas.
                  Hahaha max kellerman is now a Floyd hater according to TravestyNY.

                  And Floyd doesn't know Pac was injured that night hahaha

                  Last edited by Spoon23; 07-26-2016, 06:27 AM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                    Hahaha max kellerman is now a Floyd hater according to TravestyNY.

                    And Floyd doesn't know Pac was injured that night hahaha

                    The ****. Why are you mentioning me? I haven't said a word in this ****ty thread and already you got my dick in your mouth. I thought all those dildos you got would help you out with that.

                    Don't make me post the video of Kellerman saying Mayweather won a one sided fight against your failed savior. Tell us what you think of that

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                    • #60
                      Spoon coming out of retirement more times than floyd now

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