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Which all time great should not be there?
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Originally posted by Andyland View PostVery good article on Gatti in the current RING magazine.
Makes a very strong case for his hall of fame induction.
I'm sold!
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Just to play devils advocate on the Gatti HOF debate.
Could it be argued that Gatti has done more for the sport of boxing then another boxer who hasn't produced so many great fights? I know many people who knew little about boxing but because of those fights became casual boxing fans. That's more that can be said of a guy like Kostya Tsyzu who is the unquestionable better boxer but doesn't have nearly the collection of classic fights?
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Do you mean all time great list or Boxing Hall Of *Cough* FAME. If its The Hall Fame, even promoters and trainers were inducted. Gatti(rip) had a good following and exciting fights. I think he deserves to be there.
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Gatti got into wars with b-level guys. Were those fights thrilling? Of course. But, he got slaughtered when he stepped up to the level where HOFers are truly made.
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Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View PostYou don't know shit about boxing. Go do some research and watch some of his old footage, there's a reason why he's regarded as the greatest light heavyweight of all time.
I kept hearing about how Charles best win was against Louis and then I looked and seen Louis was far past his best when he retired and then he came out of retirement later and lost to Charles. I didn't know about his fights at light heavyweight.
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Originally posted by atomicsad View PostI meant no offense and yes I have not been watching boxing very long. I'm younger than most here.
I kept hearing about how Charles best win was against Louis and then I looked and seen Louis was far past his best when he retired and then he came out of retirement later and lost to Charles. I didn't know about his fights at light heavyweight.
There must be some reasoning behind why he's ranked so highly by most, take a look into his record and watch his fights and then make a judgement. Don't just go off something when you admittedly don't know much about him.
Anyway, Ezzard Charles has one of, arguably the greatest resume in the history of Boxing.
At LHW, he went 3-0 with Top 10 ATG and Top 2 LHW Archie Moore, in his prime.
That itself is an overwhelming accomplishments.
If that's all he had, he'd be considered a great fighter. Just off that alone.
But, it doesn't even almost stop there.
A few years prior, at Middleweight, he went 2-0 with ATG Charley Burley, again, in his prime.
He beat the likes of;
Teddy Yarosz
Joey Maxim x5
Jimmy Bivins x4
Lloyd Marshall x2
Gus Lesnenvich
Jersey Joe Walcott x2
Joe Louis
All across LHW-HW and all were top ranked when he beat them and all are world class, HOF calibur opponents.
He also beat more top ranked, top fighters in;
Rex Layne
Oakland Billy Smith
Elmer Ray
Bob Satterfield
And many more.
His resume is truley one of the best ever.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostThat's fair enough. But in future perhaps you should look into things before making comments like that?
There must be some reasoning behind why he's ranked so highly by most, take a look into his record and watch his fights and then make a judgement. Don't just go off something when you admittedly don't know much about him.
Anyway, Ezzard Charles has one of, arguably the greatest resume in the history of Boxing.
At LHW, he went 3-0 with Top 10 ATG and Top 2 LHW Archie Moore, in his prime.
That itself is an overwhelming accomplishments.
If that's all he had, he'd be considered a great fighter. Just off that alone.
But, it doesn't even almost stop there.
A few years prior, at Middleweight, he went 2-0 with ATG Charley Burley, again, in his prime.
He beat the likes of;
Teddy Yarosz
Joey Maxim x5
Jimmy Bivins x4
Lloyd Marshall x2
Gus Lesnenvich
Jersey Joe Walcott x2
Joe Louis
All across LHW-HW and all were top ranked when he beat them and all are world class, HOF calibur opponents.
He also beat more top ranked, top fighters in;
Rex Layne
Oakland Billy Smith
Elmer Ray
Bob Satterfield
And many more.
His resume is truley one of the best ever.
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