Who ranks higher Joe Calzaghe or Wladamir on the atg list?

[polarcub]

It is joe vs Wlad



The point is , Wladimir is a god damn ducker with no reason to duck other then for his own safety

Joe Calzaghe could or COULD NOT have been a ducker, it was really hard to tell because unlike Wlad he never had the publicity to call out RJJ OR Hopkins in the early 2000s late 1990s

[Mr. Invincible]

Lennox Lewis TKO Vitali


Joe Calzaghe KO WLAD's legacy


British boxing > then Russia? Germany? I don't know what country these 2 are from to be honest, neither does 99% of the world.

This post shows that you are either a complete and total moron or somebody's alt ****ing around. Either way, you are ignored now.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Is that any different than getting ko'd by Rahman, Danny Williams or fricken Kevin McBride?

The point is that Wladimir was not ready for Lennox Lewis. He never would be.

[JAB5239]

It's used to cut weight, not make one stronger so they can hurt an opponent more or move faster. Thanks for posting that piece. It further solidifies my argument.

You have no argument. It was illegal according to the IBF, that's all that matters. And if something gives you energy than it obviously can enhance you performance.

[JAB5239]

Destroying Byrd, Botha, Mercer and McCline. All good respectable fighters at the time. Tyson was fighting bums and his camp knew the Klitschko's would destroy him.

Both Klitschko's had titles at the time and Tyson never, ever mentioned them. Why?

They both badly wanted Lennox and Tyson and it's well documented.

Keep trying hater.

Do you have links to this claim? Because it sounds like guesswork.

[JAB5239]

Lol, I'm not avoiding anything.

What you seem to be avoiding is the fact that Roy never tested positive for anything that wasn't over the counter purchased at the time and that's an honest mistake anybody could make. Now, knowing this info, you should have no problem moving on and having no problem understanding that Roy never tested positive in any other fights before or after. What this means is that he didn't really have any advantage over any other fighter before or after that fight in which the other fighter was cheating for aparently himself. Not even in the Ruiz fight where it appeared that Roy had gained the most muscle mass of his career.

Is this accurate then?

P.S. Stop trying to find a way to diminish Roy's accomplishments in here. This thread is about Joe vs. Wlad. Stay on topic yourself if you want to point fingers.

He said he took an over the counter product, that doesn't mean he did. And the fact that it was illegal and considered a performance enhancer is the only thing that should matter.

[daggum]

calzaghe was scared of flying and wlad was scared of getting hit and flying face first into the canvas. toss up?

[Sick/]

calzaghe was scared of flying and wlad was scared of getting hit and flying face first into the canvas. toss up?

calzaghe wanted the crown jewels to fight roy too.


mods, is there any way to automatically just have these posts in ANY calzaghe thread in NSB?


'calzaghe was scared of flying' by daggum

'calzaghe wanted the crown jewels' by any fat bitter yank who's a roy or hopkins fan

[Joeyzagz]

In order to be considered an ATG your triumphs need to offset your biggest failures. Wlad has not beaten anyone worth a damn to offset his Three Ko losses.

The Sanders, Puritty and Brewster losses are unfortunately the biggest fights of hs career.

Joe is perfect, nothing to offset.

[John Barron]

this gif alone tells you the entire story behind joe's illustrious career...