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Who's better p4p Donaire or Ward?
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Originally posted by danceswithfire View Postchampions or ex champions or future champions they beat
ward got dawson (going down in weight), froch, abraham, and kessler..(no p4p fighters when ward fought them )...then he got green , sakio bika, miranda
nonito got darchinyan, mthalane,tyson marquez and narvaez (going up in weight),syrodenko, montiel, mathebula and nishioka (2 p4p fighters when nonito fought them).. nonito got maldonado, rafael concepcion and raul martinez
so quantity and quality nonito got this
If you want to talk about weight issues Donaire is clearly bigger than most of his opponents, if not all of them. Ward isn't that big for his weight class.
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Originally posted by Japanese Boxing View PostYou use P4P as it is somehow a relevant non completely opinion based ranking. I use P4P for the top 3 fighters. Everywhere else there is going to be much debate. Quality wins are guys in your division. Ward has single handily beat all the quality good/great fighters in his division and did a majority of it in less than 2 years. That's ****ing insane.
If you want to talk about weight issues Donaire is clearly bigger than most of his opponents, if not all of them. Ward isn't that big for his weight class.
oh he's bigger? ..that argument is so stupid .. we have a weight class for a reason ..you ever think it's harder to cut weight than gain weight?..
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View PostWard has a great resume.... winner of the super 6, he pretty much cleaned out 168 lbs... he's gritty and grinds out his opponents... not much charisma and his style is kinda boring (almost Ruizesque... almost)
Donaire has it all... speed, flash, skill, heart, charisma... the only thing I think he hasn't done is clean out a division like Ward has... if he were to clean out 122 lbs, He'd definitely be higher p4p than Ward by a wider margin
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostHow so? How's it any better than Montiel, or even Froch/Kessler for Ward?
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