Whats Mike Tyson's best win?

[Sweet Jesus]

Was Berbick really any good? Same for Smith? And Micheal Spinks was a light heavyweight.

Its cool that he kttfo, but we gotta be objective about this.

Meaning, I think a prime Samuel Peter probably sparks all three of those guys out too.

So now we're back at square one.

I see no difference as to the class of Peter and Berbick as fighters. It took Wladimir 22 rounds to KO Peter. It took Tyson 2 rounds to KO Berbick.

[Bastian Loc]

Is Tyson the Bad*ss the myth makes him out to be? No, not by a longshot. Like i said, the win against spinks was Tyson's "personal best," and the peak of his abilities. Not a great win. People will say what they want, but look at what "blown up RJJ who weighed 193" did to John Ruiz. Nobody is making haye fight at HW and he is there for a reason. Those people have no argument.

That was a cherrypick on Jones part though.

John Ruiz had cement feet and threw zero punches. It was kinda like Pac/Clottey.

Yeah Clottey was bigger, but stylistically, it didn't matter.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Obviously....

He fought Holyfield because he was thought to be old and a soft touch. He blatantly ducked Lewis for that fight. And he only fought Lennox when he had absolutely nowhere else to run.

[chabobo66]

Was Berbick really any good? Same for Smith? And Micheal Spinks was a light heavyweight.

Its cool that he kttfo, but we gotta be objective about this.

Meaning, I think a prime Samuel Peter probably sparks all three of those guys out too.

So now we're back at square one.

Well to become champ you have to work your way up in the ranks. So obviously they were all good enough to become champion. Tyson just made them all look silly.

Samuel Peter is a fat non motivated big puncher. He loses steam after 4 rounds. I've been saying this since day one and people here laughed at me. What happened when he stepped up vs when Tyson stepped up? Tyson would of beat whoever they put in front of him in those years. That's the diference between a champion and a contender my friend.

But anyway I don't have a specific win I like. I like em all. I even like the way he lost(with the exception of the second holifeild fight). Other then that he always lost like a man should and didn't ***** out.

[cupocity303]

Was Berbick really any good? Same for Smith? And Micheal Spinks was a light heavyweight.

Its cool that he kttfo, but we gotta be objective about this.

Meaning, I think a prime Samuel Peter probably sparks all three of those guys out too.

So now we're back at square one.

ANd that's the problem I encounter every time I talk about the Klitschko's and when Tyson is used as a counter example.

People are historically biased and will say the bums of era's past >>> Present Day Bums. Mike Tyson's absolute prime consisted of peddling his record and KO ratio against Journeymen. Yet all you hear is, that version of TYson would ko a Klitschko.

There is nothing on Tyson's resume that shows that he could hang with a 6'7 guy with skills, besides pointing out that Klitschko got KTFO by Sanders and Brewster. Which is a Negative Statement, and not a positive to prove your point.

To which I will immediately respond with Buster, Holyfield and Lewis. And watch the Tyson Apologists scramble with excuses. Yet Wlad was just the same ol' Wlad when he got KO'd. Couldn't be that he got a bit better now, no it's gotta be that the competition just sucks. No excuses for Klitschko's losing a couple of fights. 100's of excuses for every loss Tyson has had.

Cultural Bias at it's best.

[jrosales13]

That was a cherrypick on Jones part though.

John Ruiz had cement feet and threw zero punches. It was kinda like Pac/Clottey.

Yeah Clottey was bigger, but stylistically, it didn't matter.

But, a really a case can be made that Ruiz is arguably a top 3 HW in the last decade. Easily top 5 in this past era.

I don't think Ruiz could have been top 5 in the 80's.

[zero188]

That was a cherrypick on Jones part though.

John Ruiz had cement feet and threw zero punches. It was kinda like Pac/Clottey.

Yeah Clottey was bigger, but stylistically, it didn't matter.

I only used that as an example of a lower weight fighter beating a much bigger one. If i am not mistaken, jones wanted tyson and lewis before and after the fight, but nothing happened. Being bigger dont mean a thing. Look at all of pacs last opponents.

[Bastian Loc]

He fought Holyfield because he was thought to be old and a soft touch. He blatantly ducked Lewis for that fight. And he only fought Lennox when he had absolutely nowhere else to run.

Good point.

But, a really a case can be made that Ruiz is arguably a top 3 HW in the last decade. Easily top 5 in this past era.

I don't think Ruiz could have been top 5 in the 80's.

Ruiz was a spoiler who could make anyone look bad. He's the kind of guy that could squeak into any top 10 list because he purposely makes ugly fights.

A real case could be made for Clottey being a top 5 WW in this last decade too, but his style played right into pac's hands.

[RubenSonny]

He fought Holyfield because he was thought to be old and a soft touch. He blatantly ducked Lewis for that fight. And he only fought Lennox when he had absolutely nowhere else to run.

I don't know how any of the bull**** your claiming has anything to do with Calzaghe being greater than Tyson.

[Bastian Loc]

ANd that's the problem I encounter every time I talk about the Klitschko's and when Tyson is used as a counter example.

People are historically biased and will say the bums of era's past >>> Present Day Bums. Mike Tyson's absolute prime consisted of peddling his record and KO ratio against Journeymen. Yet all you hear is, that version of TYson would ko a Klitschko.

There is nothing on Tyson's resume that shows that he could hang with a 6'7 guy with skills, besides pointing out that Klitschko got KTFO by Sanders and Brewster. Which is a Negative Statement, and not a positive to prove your point.

To which I will immediately respond with Buster, Holyfield and Lewis. And watch the Tyson Apologists scramble with excuses. Yet Wlad was just the same ol' Wlad when he got KO'd. Couldn't be that he got a bit better now, no it's gotta be that the competition just sucks. No excuses for Klitschko's losing a couple of fights. 100's of excuses for every loss Tyson has had.

Cultural Bias at it's best.

I was watching some of his fights on Espn classic against some guys that looked like they've literally been pulled out of a honkey tonk bar to fight the day before.

And these are on ESPN CLASSIC ffs.

I wonder if they'd ever show Klitschko vs. Brock on espn classic.