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Would it be wrong to hold it against Deontay Wilder that he never went 12 rounds?

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  • Would it be wrong to hold it against Deontay Wilder that he never went 12 rounds?

    Some people say that if a fighter never wins 12 rounds he still has something to prove, as if he is not complete until he went 12 rounds.

    But look at Gennady Golovkin, he has never went 12 rounds in his career. Hell, he only went 10 rounds once. So Wilder might not even have to go 12 rounds in his entire career, seeing as he has the same power at Heavyweight as GGG has at middleweight.

  • #2
    Originally posted by KO'er View Post
    Some people say that if a fighter never wins 12 rounds he still has something to prove, as if he is not complete until he went 12 rounds.

    But look at Gennady Golovkin, he has never went 12 rounds in his career. Hell, he only went 10 rounds once. So Wilder might not even have to go 12 rounds in his entire career, seeing as he has the same power at Heavyweight as GGG has at middleweight.
    I feel you.... It also depends on the level of competition in your resume.

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    • #3
      Sometimes a man is just too talented for his own good.

      When Bermane Stiverne falls early and fails to get back up, they will say he took a dive just like Malik Scott.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by KO'er View Post
        Some people say that if a fighter never wins 12 rounds he still has something to prove, as if he is not complete until he went 12 rounds.

        But look at Gennady Golovkin, he has never went 12 rounds in his career. Hell, he only went 10 rounds once. So Wilder might not even have to go 12 rounds in his entire career, seeing as he has the same power at Heavyweight as GGG has at middleweight.
        its the quaility of opposition hes fought that people have a problem with

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        • #5
          If you're fighting guys that gotta request the day off from work to fight you then you should have everything held against you lol..

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          • #6
            He isn't a 12 round fighter and he is a knockout guy. You can hold that against him for how you rate him currently. Even longer term you can give that a red mark, but if he is knocking a bunch of solid dudes out then it doesn't mean that much.

            It would always be kind of a weakness that would get brought up though (even if he was a straight killer in the ring) because it would be what people could hang onto "Someone just need to drag him into that deep water then he will be had".

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            • #7
              It becomes a question of stamina and tenacity really. Before Kovalev fought Hopkins he had never gone past the eighth round. There were a lot of questions about how he would fare against a guy who wouldn't crumple in front of him. Of course, we all found out that he fared really well, so yeah.

              We haven't seen what Wilder looks like against a dude who doesn't fold immediately, so I think there are concerns about what will happen when he fights someone who can stick around with him.

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              • #8
                It's not about holding it against him, it is far worse than not going 12, he hasn't even gone 4 rounds and it takes years to build stamina and no professional boxing team / management in their right mind would not pit him in against weak comp before a title fight unless they were cashing him out. Any pro team knows to look for guys with solid chins to take him rounds. That is boxing common sense so either they lack boxing common sense or they know it is a matter of time before his uncoordinated movement and stiffness, questionable chin or lack of stamina catch up to him.
                Last edited by richardt; 12-01-2014, 11:20 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by valero View Post
                  Sometimes a man is just too talented for his own good.

                  When Bermane Stiverne falls early and fails to get back up, they will say he took a dive just like Malik Scott.
                  "He was looking up at the lights, he knew what was going on, he wasn't hurt that bad. I wonder how much they paid him to make Wilder look good?"

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                  • #10
                    You can hold it against the person of they have been setup to never go 12. Wilder has. Stiverne will be that one guy not made to order for him.

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