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  • For Those Who Approve Of Manny Suing GBP and The Mayweathers...

    Here’s where the rubber meets the road.

    Drug testing has been mandatory in boxing for how long now?

    No boxer is ever suspected of or accused of being on PED’s. BUT each and everyone is mandated to submit to drug testing as per the athletic commissions’ guidelines, whether it‘s the NSAC or the CSAC.
    That has been the precautionary measure in place and the norm in boxing for quite a while now, and is to be expected of any pro boxer to undergo.

    Here’s the kicker for all of those claiming that Manny is being accused of using drugs unfairly when he has never tested positive for them….

    Read carefully…

    By Arum First acknowledging, agreeing to, approving of (insert whatever word you like) -- with Manny’s blessing no less -- to have Manny tested by the USADA he put Team Pacquiao in position to have Manny perceived as a possible candidate for using PED‘s.

    Did you get that?

    Team Pacquiao fell into the “pothole”, so to speak, by acknowledging that additional testing via bloodwork was a viable option when it was first proposed to them by GBP who's representative, Richard Schaefer, stated was part of the first draft of the contract.

    They learned that the USADA could not guarantee a cutoff date without jeopardizing any effective means of accurately detecting the presence of performance enhancers.

    Here's the other kicker...

    By later proposing that other testing organizations who provide their services to the NFL, MLB, and NBA perform drug testing on both fighters, Arum further implicates him in the process.

    Had Team Pacquiao simply refused from the get-go to entertain the option of testing by an outside testing agency, they would not have the additional worry of having Manny perceived as being a cheater by the boxing public. And they would have avoided all the hassle of battling for a “cutoff date” to begin with.

    Looks to be self incrimination on the part of Team Pacquiao to me.

    Let’s put Mayweather Sr.’s comments aside for a moment.

    Who wouldn’t be concerned about a public statement such as:
    “I’m responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes”

    in today’s world of performance enhancement use?

    Who would have no concern over such statements particularly when it is a documented fact that other fighters have been tested and proven to show that they did use Performance Enhancement Drugs in the past?

    That statement was read, and likely shared, by how many people around the boxing world?

    Again -- by Team Pacquiao acknowledging publicly that USADA testing would be a viable option as long as there’s a cutoff date, they are just as responsible for what the public might or might not perceive about Manny.

    Just a thought.

  • #2
    Originally posted by MindBat View Post
    Here’s where the rubber meets the road.

    Drug testing has been mandatory in boxing for how long now?

    No boxer is ever suspected of or accused of being on PED’s. BUT each and everyone is mandated to submit to drug testing as per the athletic commissions’ guidelines, whether it‘s the NSAC or the CSAC.
    That has been the precautionary measure in place and the norm in boxing for quite a while now, and is to be expected of any pro boxer to undergo.

    Here’s the kicker for all of those claiming that Manny is being accused of using drugs unfairly when he has never tested positive for them….

    Read carefully…

    By Arum First acknowledging, agreeing to, approving of (insert whatever word you like) -- with Manny’s blessing no less -- to have Manny tested by the USADA he put Team Pacquiao in position to have Manny perceived as a possible candidate for using PED‘s.

    Did you get that?

    Team Pacquiao fell into the “pothole”, so to speak, by acknowledging that additional testing via bloodwork was a viable option when it was first proposed to them by GBP who's representative, Richard Schaefer, stated was part of the first draft of the contract.

    They learned that the USADA could not guarantee a cutoff date without jeopardizing any effective means of accurately detecting the presence of performance enhancers.

    Here's the other kicker...

    By later proposing that other testing organizations who provide their services to the NFL, MLB, and NBA perform drug testing on both fighters, Arum further implicates him in the process.

    Had Team Pacquiao simply refused from the get-go to entertain the option of testing by an outside testing agency, they would not have the additional worry of having Manny perceived as being a cheater by the boxing public. And they would have avoided all the hassle of battling for a “cutoff date” to begin with.

    Looks to be self incrimination on the part of Team Pacquiao to me.

    Let’s put Mayweather Sr.’s comments aside for a moment.

    Who wouldn’t be concerned about a public statement such as:
    “I’m responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes”

    in today’s world of performance enhancement use?

    Who would have no concern over such statements particularly when it is a documented fact that other fighters have been tested and proven to show that they did use Performance Enhancement Drugs in the past?

    That statement was read, and likely shared, by how many people around the boxing world?

    Again -- by Team Pacquiao acknowledging publicly that USADA testing would be a viable option as long as there’s a cutoff date, they are just as responsible for what the public might or might not perceive about Manny.

    Just a thought.
    nope... still not convinced. manny is clean.

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    • #3
      i don't know why we should ignore floyd sr.'s comments cause none of those scenarios would have happened if he didn't open his mouth.

      im still a *******. sorry.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by aether View Post
        nope... still not convinced. manny is clean.
        Many of us believe Manny is clean. But the point of this thread is that his fans claim his image is being ruined by the public's perception that he is a cheater.

        His Team contributed to that perception.

        If you read the post, you would understand that.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MindBat View Post
          Many of us believe Manny is clean. But the point of this thread is that his fans claim his image is being ruined by the public's perception that he is a cheater.

          His Team contributed to that perception.

          If you read the post, you would understand that.
          Strongly contributed to that. In fact, Pacquiao and his team made matters 8x worse and with the lawsuit in play...I need not say.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by aether View Post
            i don't know why we should ignore floyd sr.'s comments cause none of those scenarios would have happened if he didn't open his mouth.

            im still a *******. sorry.
            The point is Manny's fans would like Manny to move forward with a lawsuit against Sr. and GBP without thinking about how that would make Manny look when it does take place and it's all said and done.

            This is not trying to convert Pac fans into Mayweather fans.

            Just look at the facts from an objective point of view for a moment.

            You can still be a Pac fan.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MindBat View Post
              Many of us believe Manny is clean. But the point of this thread is that his fans claim his image is being ruined by the public's perception that he is a cheater.

              His Team contributed to that perception.

              If you read the post, you would understand that.
              Just curious, what is Ariza's track record before all of this I honestly don't know. Is there a reason to suspect anything because of him??

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                Strongly contributed to that. In fact, Pacquiao and his team made matters 8x worse and with the lawsuit in play...I need not say.
                It is clear as day.

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                • #9
                  Either way you put it, Manny's name has been embroiled with the word steroids and blood test refusal. They don't want to take blood tests for 30 days before the fight. It takes up to 48 hours for the HGH half-life to clear out of your body.

                  Look it up.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VoodooChild View Post
                    Just curious, what is Ariza's track record before all of this I honestly don't know. Is there a reason to suspect anything because of him??
                    His "track record" may or may not have a bearing on this issue.

                    The point is he is currently Pacquiao's strength and conditioning coach, and was quoted in an an article as making a statement that would raise concerns in the sporting world, not to mention in boxing.

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