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  • Does anyone here have an ATG list?

    Too many people here go on about who is a great fighter and who isnt and who should be ranked higher but I never see any lists from anyone, just 100 page threads of BS and criticism. So let's have it, post a list then.

  • #2
    greatest 3 fighters to ever live

    robinson
    armstrong
    ali

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    • #3
      1. Dmitry Pirog
      2. Sergei Kovalev
      3. Ray Robinson
      4. Rocky Marciano
      5. idk this is boring

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sugarsmosley View Post
        greatest 3 fighters to ever live

        robinson
        armstrong
        ali
        ......pretty obvious the top 3 always looks like that, i was expecting something more in depth

        Originally posted by Lebanon View Post
        1. Dmitry Pirog
        2. Sergei Kovalev
        3. Ray Robinson
        4. Rocky Marciano
        5. idk this is boring
        welcome idiot, i was expecting you

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        • #5
          I been actually working on one for a month now, but instead of the obvious and what usually is the general consensus of who's the best, i'm researching heavy and trying to find old articles, magazines and books, fight tape, old rankings of each division to see what the great fighter fought who and at what time to accurately make the best list without being biased for one fighter or another.

          Also i saw this video of a panel discussing who there pound for pound best all time were, found it interesting about how they rank fighter, resume or resume and skillset, or if they fought a fighter in his prime.

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          • #6
            You can create your own list based on the fighters you have seen. There's no way to see footage of a top 100 best boxers of all time. #1 reason is that some don't even have footage on their fights, or don't have enough.

            Also it could be someone's opinion that Wlad can beat Louis/Ali/Johnson on sheer size/height in relation to style, or that Mayweather can beat Armstrong/Duran/Benitez, or Hopkins would beat Hagler/Hearns/Leonard @ 160.

            In the end it's all opinionated and there's no reason to agree on some historian's list, make your own based on your knowledge of boxing and who you have actually seen enough of that you could judge their careers.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by komodo
              For me this list is pretty accurate, you can change a few names around but I think all those guys deserve to be in the top 50.

              1. Sugar Ray Robinson
              2. Muhammad Ali
              3. Henry Armstrong
              4. Joe Louis
              5. Willie Pep
              6. Roberto Duran
              7. Benny Leonard
              8. Jack Johnson
              9. Jack Dempsey
              10. Sam Langford
              11. Joe Gans
              12. Sugar Ray Leonard
              13. Harry Greb
              14. Rocky Marciano
              15. Jimmy Wilde
              16. Gene Tunney
              17. Mickey Walker
              19. Stanley Ketchel
              20. George Foreman
              21. Tony Canzoneri
              22. Barney Ross
              23. Jimmy McLarnin
              24. Julio Cesar Chavez
              25. Marcel Cerdan
              26. Joe Frazier
              27. Ezzard Charles
              28. Jake LaMotta
              29. Sandy Saddler
              30. Terry McGovern
              31. Billy Conn
              32. Jose Napoles
              33. Ruben Olivares
              34. Emile Griffith
              35. Marvin Hagler
              36. Eder Jofre
              37. Thomas Hearns
              38. Larry Holmes
              39. Oscar De La Hoya
              40. Evander Holyfield
              41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
              42. Alexis Arguello
              43. Marco Antonio Barrera
              44. Pernell Whitaker
              45. Carlos Monzon
              46. Roy Jones Jr.
              47. Bernard Hopkins
              48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
              49. Erik Morales
              50. Mike Tyson
              JCC, why do you have him that high? He's really overrated if you ask me, his resume is weak compared to others.

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              • #8
                Robinson
                Leonard
                Ali
                Tyson
                Pacquiao

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RetroSpeed05 View Post
                  JCC, why do you have him that high? He's really overrated if you ask me his resume is weak, compared to others.
                  I deleted that list it was outdated. I think Manny and JMM deserve to be in the top 50.

                  Maybe Chavez is ranked a little high but I think you can make a case for him being a 6 time world champion in 3 different weight classes.

                  Here's the updated list but like I said it's subjective, just depends what you fancy but I believe those fighters deserve to be in the top 50.

                  1. Sugar Ray Robinson
                  2. Muhammad Ali
                  3. Henry Armstrong
                  4. Joe Louis
                  5. Willie Pep
                  6. Roberto Duran
                  7. Benny Leonard
                  8. Jack Johnson
                  9. Jack Dempsey
                  10. Sam Langford
                  11. Joe Gans
                  12. Sugar Ray Leonard
                  13. Harry Greb
                  14. Rocky Marciano
                  15. Jimmy Wilde
                  16. Gene Tunney
                  17. Mickey Walker
                  18. Archie Moore
                  19. Stanley Ketchel
                  20. George Foreman
                  21. Tony Canzoneri
                  22. Barney Ross
                  23. Jimmy McLarnin
                  24. Joe Frazier
                  25. Marcel Cerdan
                  26. Ezzard Charles
                  27. Jake LaMotta
                  28. Julio Cesar Chavez
                  29. Sandy Saddler
                  30. Terry McGovern
                  31. Billy Conn
                  32. Jose Napoles
                  33. Ruben Olivares
                  34. Emile Griffith
                  35. Marvin Hagler
                  36. Eder Jofre
                  37. Thomas Hearns
                  38. Larry Holmes
                  39. Oscar De La Hoya
                  40. Evander Holyfield
                  41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
                  42. Alexis Arguello
                  43. Carlos Monzon
                  44. Pernell Whitaker
                  45. Manny Pacquiao
                  46. Roy Jones Jr.
                  47. Bernard Hopkins
                  48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  49. Erik Morales
                  50. Juan Manuel Marquez

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                  • #10
                    Too much effort into planning a list out you could be there for ages upon ages naming several people...

                    All I know is for certain guys from the modern era that belong in that ATG list would be
                    Both Klitschko brothers
                    Manny Pacquiao
                    Sergio Martinez
                    Miguel Cotto
                    JMM

                    Possibly Carl Froch, not that im necessarily saying that these guys belong at the top.

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