Too many people here go on about who is a great fighter and who isnt and who should be ranked higher but I never see any lists from anyone, just 100 page threads of BS and criticism. So let's have it, post a list then.
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Originally posted by sugarsmosley View Postgreatest 3 fighters to ever live
robinson
armstrong
ali
Originally posted by Lebanon View Post1. Dmitry Pirog
2. Sergei Kovalev
3. Ray Robinson
4. Rocky Marciano
5. idk this is boring
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I been actually working on one for a month now, but instead of the obvious and what usually is the general consensus of who's the best, i'm researching heavy and trying to find old articles, magazines and books, fight tape, old rankings of each division to see what the great fighter fought who and at what time to accurately make the best list without being biased for one fighter or another.
Also i saw this video of a panel discussing who there pound for pound best all time were, found it interesting about how they rank fighter, resume or resume and skillset, or if they fought a fighter in his prime.
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You can create your own list based on the fighters you have seen. There's no way to see footage of a top 100 best boxers of all time. #1 reason is that some don't even have footage on their fights, or don't have enough.
Also it could be someone's opinion that Wlad can beat Louis/Ali/Johnson on sheer size/height in relation to style, or that Mayweather can beat Armstrong/Duran/Benitez, or Hopkins would beat Hagler/Hearns/Leonard @ 160.
In the end it's all opinionated and there's no reason to agree on some historian's list, make your own based on your knowledge of boxing and who you have actually seen enough of that you could judge their careers.
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Originally posted by komodoFor me this list is pretty accurate, you can change a few names around but I think all those guys deserve to be in the top 50.
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson
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Originally posted by RetroSpeed05 View PostJCC, why do you have him that high? He's really overrated if you ask me his resume is weak, compared to others.
Maybe Chavez is ranked a little high but I think you can make a case for him being a 6 time world champion in 3 different weight classes.
Here's the updated list but like I said it's subjective, just depends what you fancy but I believe those fighters deserve to be in the top 50.
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
18. Archie Moore
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Joe Frazier
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Ezzard Charles
27. Jake LaMotta
28. Julio Cesar Chavez
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Carlos Monzon
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Manny Pacquiao
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
49. Erik Morales
50. Juan Manuel Marquez
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Too much effort into planning a list out you could be there for ages upon ages naming several people...
All I know is for certain guys from the modern era that belong in that ATG list would be
Both Klitschko brothers
Manny Pacquiao
Sergio Martinez
Miguel Cotto
JMM
Possibly Carl Froch, not that im necessarily saying that these guys belong at the top.
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