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**Atreyu Khalil** · 03-15-2012, 04:18 PM

Cotto is getting knocked out by Mayweather no doubt about that. Cotto hasn't looked hungry & effective to me since the Mosley fight.

**KING MEAT** · 03-15-2012, 04:23 PM

Cotto is getting knocked out by Mayweather no doubt about that. Cotto hasn't looked hungry & effective to me since the Mosley fight.

**madsweeney** · 03-15-2012, 04:31 PM

Cotto is getting knocked out by Mayweather no doubt about that. Cotto hasn't looked hungry & effective to me since the Mosley fight.

**Beater_of_ass** · 03-15-2012, 04:38 PM

Power - Why the TS has Ortiz over Cotto is beyond me, what was his last KO?

1. Mosley
2. Cotto
3. Ortiz
4. JMM

Boxing Skill - Agree with TS

1. JMM
2. Cotto
3. Mosley
4. Ortiz

Jab - Agree

1. Cotto
2. JMM
3. Mosley
3. Ortiz

Ability to take a punch - To me this depends on weight but at 147+ the TS list sucks, Ortiz been dropped more than Cotto but he has the better chin? Just because JMM tooks Manny's punch means nothing, (@144) Floyd dropped him. Put JMM in there with Mayorga, Margarito and Foreman and each one puts him to zzz IMO.

1. Mosley
2. Cotto
3. JMM
4. Ortiz

Speed / Quickness - Ortiz/Cotto are even in terms of speed/quickness IMO.

1. Mosley
2. Ortiz / Cotto
4. JMM

Body Size / Composition - Skipped this because it means nothing IMO.

Aerobic Endurance (Why not just call it stamina? You're list is right though.)

1. JMM
2. Ortiz
3. Mosley
4. Cotto

Agility - Ortiz is nothing but a come forward fighter now. He was light on his feet before now he just bounces for no reason really, he is just going to come forward with no feints.

1. Cotto
2. Mosley
3. Ortiz
4. JMM

Balance & Coordination - JMM and Cotto are pretty close, but JMM throws better combinations so I gave him the edge.

1. JMM
2. Cotto
3. Ortiz
4. Mosley

Reaction Time - You overrated Ortiz on nearly everything I equate reaction time to slipping and counter punching ability as that's when it really matters. JMM is the best counter puncher of the four.

1. JMM
2. Cotto
3. Ortiz
4. Mosley

Motivation & Self Confidence - Cotto last on the list after he just beat Margarito? Before the Marg win I would agree but not now... Mosley should be last BY FAR then Ortiz. He fakes his confidence, if he actually had confidence he would have decked Floyd when he started choking him. That right there made me know the fight was over before it started.

1. JMM
2. Cotto
3. Ortiz
4. Mosley

Coping With Pressure Situations - How does Mosley do better than Cotto in pressure situations at least lately? Cotto performed 10x's better than Mosley against Manny and I promise you he'll land more than 1 or 2 meaningful punches on Floyd. Seriously... against pressure fighters Cotto has problems but he corrected a lot of mistakes against Margarito in the rematch and not to mention just FACING Marg takes balls and self confidence. He didn't lose on points to him he, gave up. Also Cotto won't unravel like Ortiz did if he gets frustrated with Floyd.

1. JMM
2. Cotto
3. Mosley
4. Ortiz

**savorduhflavor** · 03-15-2012, 05:07 PM

How on earth do you rate Ortiz's ability to take a punch over Cotto's? That's insane to me.

**JmH Reborn** · 03-15-2012, 06:05 PM

1 equals best, 4 worst.

Power

1. Mosley
2. Cotto
3. Ortiz
4. JMM

As of now, Cotto's power has shown to be more formidable. He's stunned bigger opponents. All we have is Ortiz over Berto. Questionable

Boxing Skill

1. JMM
2. Cotto
3. Mosley
4. Ortiz

No Change

Jab

1. Cotto
2. JMM
3. Mosley
3. Ortiz

No change

Ability to take a punch

1. Mosley
2. Cotto
3. JMM
4. Ortiz

Poor set up. Only one man ever put Cotto down from a punch, and that was Pacquaio. JMM and Ortiz have been put on their asses from lesser fighters. Mosley has a beard that is unquestionable.

Speed / Quickness

1. Ortiz
2. Cotto
3. JMM
4. Mosley

Purely judging from Mosley's last fights, speed and agility are no longer his best attributes. He only has his power. If this was 5 years ago, no question.

Body Size / Composition

1. Ortiz
2. Cotto
3. Mosley
4. JMM

No Change

Aerobic Endurance

1. JMM
2. Ortiz
3. Cotto
4. Mosley

Endurance also no longer favors Mosley. He was worn out after the 2nd round in the Mayweather fight, was gassed early against Pac, and was heaving against Mora.

Agility

1. Ortiz
2. Cotto
3. Mosley
4. JMM

No change, although I still think JMM should be higher than Mosley at this point

Balance & Coordination

1. JMM
2. Ortiz
3. Cotto
4. Mosley

No change, fair.

Reaction Time

1. JMM
2. Cotto
3. Ortiz
4. Mosley

Cotto is superior to Ortiz with his timing and reaction time at this point I believe.

Analytical & Tactical Ability

1. JMM
2. Cotto
3. Mosley
4. Ortiz

No change

Motivation & Self Confidence

1. JMM
2. Cotto
3. Ortiz
4. Mosley

Cotto's confidence is high now, JMM is always confident. Ortiz still has 0 composure. Mosley is just collecting checks. He has no fighting spirit anymore.

Coping With Pressure Situations

1. JMM
2. Cotto
3. Mosley
4. Ortiz

Judging from past fights, JMM still is the best at adaption this side of Floyd. Cotto adapts pretty well. He coped with cut in Clottey. He coped in Margarito II. He coped after the 2nd KD in Pac and managed to steal a round or two in the fight after the KD. Mosley didn't adapt well in his last three fights. And Ortiz crumbled in the 4th round.

Overall, pretty fair.

**~AK49~** · 03-15-2012, 07:57 PM

Just commenting on the ones i disagree with, for the most part between cotto and ortiz, and at this point in mosleys career, im not sure where id rate him at many of these.