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Just a few thoughts on ATG lists. I don't think you can have a set number of slots like Top 10 ect. as I believe the number of ATGs in a division is fluid and open-ended with new ATGs being added as their careers wind down and come into perspective. Also some divisions that have not been historically deep may have fewer. I would say the Welterweights have more than 20 ATGs for example, while Flyweights fewer than 10.
Near greats are fine fighters who for whatever reason fall just short of ATG status and there are numurous examples of them.
A note on divisions. I'm an "old-school-8" guy. Those 8 are:
Heavyweight
Light-Heavyweight
Middleweight
Welterweight
Lightweight
Featherweight
Bantamweight
Flyweight
I don't acknowledge the legitimacy of the "Junior" and "Super" weight classes. These divisions where invented by the sanctioning bodies to create roughly double the number of champions out there, which doubles the number of title fights, which in turn doubles the amount of money that flows into the alphabet boys coffers via sanctioning fees. These divisions are not recognised in my ATG lists. Fighters who fough predominately at one of these phony weight classes gets rated at the next highest legitmate weight class. For example, a fighter who fought primarily at Junior-Welterweight would be rated at Welterweight.
Also, I only rate fighters in one division. The only exception I make to that is Ray Robinson because he's, well, Ray Robinson. Other fighters I rate in the division they spent the majority of their career at; or, if they spent close to the same amount of time in more than one I rate them in the division they were best at.
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Near greats are fine fighters who for whatever reason fall just short of ATG status and there are numurous examples of them.
A note on divisions. I'm an "old-school-8" guy. Those 8 are:
Heavyweight
Light-Heavyweight
Middleweight
Welterweight
Lightweight
Featherweight
Bantamweight
Flyweight
I don't acknowledge the legitimacy of the "Junior" and "Super" weight classes. These divisions where invented by the sanctioning bodies to create roughly double the number of champions out there, which doubles the number of title fights, which in turn doubles the amount of money that flows into the alphabet boys coffers via sanctioning fees. These divisions are not recognised in my ATG lists. Fighters who fough predominately at one of these phony weight classes gets rated at the next highest legitmate weight class. For example, a fighter who fought primarily at Junior-Welterweight would be rated at Welterweight.
Also, I only rate fighters in one division. The only exception I make to that is Ray Robinson because he's, well, Ray Robinson. Other fighters I rate in the division they spent the majority of their career at; or, if they spent close to the same amount of time in more than one I rate them in the division they were best at.
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