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Commentators counting Paulie's power against him when scoring the fight
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If it were a 12 round amatuer fight using amatuer scoring the fight would have been close! However, this was a "pro fight" were power and effective agrssiveness means more than light punches being landed! Its is amazing how many fans here don't know how to judge a pro fight!
Paulie landed clean shots but compared to Broner moving him back throughtout the fight because of his effective agrssiveness and Paulies willi9ngness to "give ground" because of Broner harder more powerfull punches seals the judging that Broner was more effective!!!
Broner was virtually unmarked and Paulie showed welts under both eyes and multiple hot spots (red body marks) on both his sides! A few times Paulie had to lift his back leg when Broners left hooks sunk in!!
I don't care and did NOT care who won, I was rooting for a 12 round quality fight but to say Paulie was robbed or he clearly out scored Broner is BS!
If you think he won by your obserbvations follow amatuer boxing because thats how its scored. A jab has the same effect as a well placed harder body shot!!!! Leave that at the amatuer game NOT in the pro judgeing!! Ray
Broner 8 Paulie 4 ...a pretty good fight fought by both men!!Last edited by Ray Corso; 06-23-2013, 02:20 PM.
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Originally posted by Ray Corso View PostIf it were a 12 round amatuer fight using amatuer scoring the fight would have been close! However, this was a "pro fight" were power and effective agrssiveness means more than light punches being landed! Its is amazing how many fans here don't know how to judge a pro fight!
Paulie landed clean shots but compared to Broner moving him back throughtout the fight because of his effective agrssiveness and Paulies willi9ngness to "give ground" because of Broner harder more powerfull punches seals the judging that Broner was more effective!!!
Broner was virtually unmarked and Paulie showed welts under both eyes and multiple hot spots (red body marks) on both his sides! A few times Paulie had to lift his back leg when Broners left hooks sunk in!!
I don't care and did NOT care who won, I was rooting for a 12 round quality fight but to say Paulie was robbed or he clearly out scored Broner is BS!
If you think he won by your obserbvations follow amatuer boxing because thats how its scored. A jab has the same effect as a well placed harder body shot!!!! Leave that at the amatuer game NOT in the pro judgeing!! Ray
Broner 8 Paulie 4 ...a pretty good fight fought by both men!!
but another important factor is headshots, headshots in boxing, have always counted for more than bodyshots, unless you're throwing some noticebally effective bodyshots or aren't being touched back, headshots will win rounds and malignaggi is not only a weak puncher, but he clearly throws flailing arm punches to broner's body, that is basically just touching someone and shouldn't score for much, esspecially when the other guy is raking you with hooks/straights and uppercuts to the head
the only time you should go to "who landed/worked more" is when a round is fairly uneventful(like the early rd's where broner wasn't landing/throwing much, here paulie's workrate wins) or it's fairly even or the landed pittypats is just alot greater than the effective shotsLast edited by SplitSecond; 06-23-2013, 02:29 PM.
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Originally posted by TheHolyCross View Postwtf? is this the level of ******ation people have fallen to?
It was close and it counted for nothing, the away fighter got a 117-111 from the NY judge.
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Good point being made by the OP. It is indeed unfair that Paulie's punches were automatically reduced/discounted because of his lack of natural power. Unfortunately Paulie did himself the additional disservice of electing to fire almost exclusively to Broner's midsection. Doesn't Paulie know? Even professional judges, commentators, and members of the boxing media don't score body punches with the same emphasis they do headshots.
Ask Marvin Hagler.
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View PostGood point being made by the OP. It is indeed unfair that Paulie's punches were automatically reduced/discounted because of his lack of natural power. Unfortunately Paulie did himself the additional disservice of electing to fire almost exclusively to Broner's midsection. Doesn't Paulie know? Even professional judges, commentators, and members of the boxing media don't score body punches with the same emphasis they do headshots.
Ask Marvin Hagler.
well, i say that but angulo lost most of the rounds because lara was the one landing the headshots, and despite the power difference, it shows the effective difference between headshots and bodyshotsLast edited by SplitSecond; 06-23-2013, 02:41 PM.
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Paulie did 2 things that really count against, he has no power and he targeted the body. We all know the judges give 1/4 the credit for body punches that they do for head shots
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