Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
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Julio Cesar Chavez: GOAT
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Originally posted by crold1 View PostI don't know if I'd agree on Ali. Greater as a figure but I think a STRONG case can be made Duran was a better fighter. I rate Duran higher all-time of the two.
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Originally posted by ElBossHogg™ View PostEasy.
"Men Lie, Women Lie, Number Dont Lie"
Chavez holds records for most successful consecutive defenses of world titles (27), most title fights (37), most title-fight victories (31) and he is tied with Joe Louis for most title defenses won by knockout (21). Chávez also has the longest undefeated streak in boxing history, 13 years. His record was 89-0-1 going into his first loss to Frankie Randall and had an 87 fight win streak until his draw with Whitaker.
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"Men Lie, Women Lie, Number Dont Lie"
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Originally posted by JDezi4 View PostPrime Ray knocks Chavez's head off... I mean, the guy stopped much bigger guys with relatively tougher chins (at the very least considering the size)
Lets take the Meldrick Taylor for example. Here is a guy that was on his way to being the next Sugar Ray, maybe even more... When he fought Chavez, Taylor was unbeatable. After Chavez, Taylor never seriously competed again. It's difficult to relatively compare the athlete in Ray's time and in Chavez's time. What we do know, however, is that they are bigger, faster, and stronger, now.
Nope. I'm going with the numbers. 88-0. Chavez.
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Originally posted by Wiley Hyena View PostI like this post even tho I disagree with it. Duran was awesome. But the "Robinson, Ali, and Armstrong were all objectively greater" statement is a debatable opinion.
What I see is 88-0. Thats Julio Cesar Chavez.
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Originally posted by Wiley Hyena View PostAfter Chavez, Taylor never seriously competed again.
And how are they bigger, faster, and stronger now below Heavyweight? You must just be goofing. Chavez was 5'7 and between 130 and 140 at peak. That's about the average for great fighters in those weights for about the last whenever the hell.
A Jr. Welterweight has to weigh in at 140 same for Chavez same as it was for Niccolino Locche a generation before and Danny Garcia now. Maybe if we make a case about day before weigh-ins, but that wasn't the problem in Chavez's prime it is now as the concept was still new and methods for draining were evolving, but it doesn't apply to everyone either.
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Chavez is not even the greatest Mexican Boxer of all time, that honor also goes to Duran, his father was Mexican
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