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  • #11
    Originally posted by - Righteous - View Post
    Who has Gonzalez beaten on the level of Bradley? Or for that matter, who has Mayweather beaten?

    I would put Pac at number 1.
    Estrada is as good as Bradley. Also destroying top competition in your division trumps going 12 rounds with guys like rios. I agree mayweather has not beaten anyone special. Roman is actually #1 in my book.

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    • #12
      The order is arguable, but not a terrible list overall.

      My only real complaint is that Froch should be there instead of GGG.

      Also, I'm not comfortable with Wlad being P4P but I can't think of anyone I would replace him with. The most promising ones don't have the wins to justify a P4P ranking yet.

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      • #13
        Also, I'm not comfortable with Wlad being P4P but I can't think of anyone I would replace him with. The most promising ones don't have the wins to justify a P4P ranking yet.
        That's because you're a whacko conspiracy theorist who thinks Wlad rigs all of his fights and whatnot. I've seen your other posts. Anyone else has him p4p. Ring has him #3 p4p in the world (#2 because they have to drop Ward soon).

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        • #14
          Good list, but I'm not agree with the order. Like Blanco said, Rigo or Gonzalez should be ahead of Marquez.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by TotalStud View Post
            That's because you're a whacko conspiracy theorist who thinks Wlad rigs all of his fights and whatnot. I've seen your other posts. Anyone else has him p4p. Ring has him #3 p4p in the world (#2 because they have to drop Ward soon).
            WTF? I don't even post about Wlad unless it's something Pulev related and I'm a big Pulev fan and Bulgarian (by ethnicity) so it's only natural Wlad isn't my favourite fighter these days (or that I didn't like Wlad fighting Leapai before Pulev).

            But even if that wasn't the case, everyone has fighters they simply don't like. That doesn't make them "whacko conspiracy theorists". And I don't recall ever saying Wlad rigs his fights.

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            • #16
              So you want him dropped out of the p4p rankings where he is universally included because you're a Pulev fan, when Pulev is about to fight him?

              That makes no sense at all, but cool story.
              Last edited by ////; 11-12-2014, 01:21 PM.

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              • #17
                Marquez shouldn't be number 3, hell IMO Froch should be ahead of Marquez and Froch isn't even there.

                I'd have Rigondeaux ahead of both Marquez and Bradley. I don't agree with Pacquiao being number 2 anymore. Going a couple of years back, he'd be number 1 or 2 for sure, but not now. Beating Brandon Rios or Chris Algieri, they're not elite.

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                • #18
                  GGG over Klitschko.

                  Just a dumb list, period.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by TotalStud View Post
                    So you want him dropped out of the p4p rankings where he is universally included because you're a Pulev fan, when Pulev is about to fight him?

                    That makes no sense at all, but cool story.
                    No. I was referring to the posts you said you saw from me. I criticized him harshly for fighting Leapai first and the press conference controversy. And that's partly because I'm a Pulev fan.

                    I don't want him dropped from the P4P list. I'm just saying that for a P4Per, his resume is a bit weak. He has been a title holder for over 8 years and his best wins are what? Byrd, Ibragimov, Thompson, Chagaev, Chambers, Haye and Povetkin. Not much for such a long title reign. And of these guys I only recognize Byrd, Haye and maybe Povetkin as really good fighters. The others are decent at best.

                    But like I said, no one is accomplished enough to replace him, so I'm fine with him being P4P.

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                    • #20
                      This is my Top 10 P4P:

                      1. Mayweather
                      2. Klitschko
                      3. Pacquiao
                      4. Bradley
                      5. Marquez
                      6. Gonzalez
                      7. Froch
                      8. Estrada
                      9. Rigondeaux
                      10. Kovalev

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