Originally posted by AL YANKAB*TCH
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"Clean" losses Hogan has taken?
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Originally posted by Spray_resistant View PostIf you mean Starcade 96 nah, the plan according to Eric Bishoff in his book with the crow Sting was he was supposed to get the clean pin but Hogan took a look at Sting without that big leather coat sometime before the match and thought he looked out of shape and ghost white since he hadn't been wrestling for a year and a half just hanging at the top of the arena and doing occasional run ins. So they decided on some weird fast count or false finish......they should have just went for the clean pin because that mainevent was an utter fail and kind of confusing for fans.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AWtLhBYYni4
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Goldberg didnt pin him clean, Hogan was being distracted by some dude when goldberg set up the spear.
Also when he jobbed to Warrior he kicked out at 3 or close to it, made the win seem a little controversial watch the replay.
Goldberg also only lost clean once in his entire career without interference, to bret hart when they were both faces.
I also dont remember warrior jobbing clean at all.
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Originally posted by Willy Wanker View PostThat's because Goldberg is an even bigger premadonna than Hogan.
Hulk might have been a dick in his prime, but he's always cared about the business, unlike Goldberg who only cares about money and actually believing he's a legit tough guy.
That guy needed an Andre the Giant fist to the face like Warrior got. I don't understand how you can be in the fake groping business and not be willing to lose or make other people look good. It's fake.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostI've heard Hogan talk about that before. He and WCW management wanted to give Goldberg the title, but once he got it he turned into an ultra d*ck and wouldn't make anyone look good. He would just say, "no, I'm not losing to this person."
That guy needed an Andre the Giant fist to the face like Warrior got. I don't understand how you can be in the fake groping business and not be willing to lose or make other people look good. It's fake.
Even though it's a "fake" sport ego is a HUGE factor in everything that goes on in the industry.
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Originally posted by Ziggy Stardust View PostPart of the problem in WCW at the time was that none of the main-eventers were willing to job unless it was to one of their buddies. Except maybe Sting. There was too much "I'll job to this guy but not to those guys" mentality going on. Wasn't just WCW though; over in the WWF Shawn Michaels and his crew were doing the same thing and even Austin started doing it the last couple of years he was active.
Even though it's a "fake" sport ego is a HUGE factor in everything that goes on in the industry.
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Originally posted by Spray_resistant View PostThat is why I laugh at the Montreal screwjob if it actually was real and not just a work. He deserved it, he was leaving the company,& he should have done the classy thing and dropped the strap via outside interference so he wouldn't look bad and Shawn would have the belt.
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Originally posted by Ziggy Stardust View PostWell, part of that was a tit-4-tat going on between Michaels and Hart: Michaels refused to job to Hart and Hart returned the favor. Michaels has always been pretty much a prick backstage and IRL. None of that **** made anyone look good imo.
The plan was to have Michaels beat Bret clean at SS 97 and Bret just leaves but Bret told Vince he wanted to drop the title on RAW the next night then leave because he was seen as a hero in Canada and didn't want to lose in his home country.
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