Comments Thread For: DeGale: I'm Looking at Andre Ward, Abraham, Dirrell

[Progrssive_Jedi]

First off he'll have to get Ward to take a tough fight

second, he'll have to go up to at least 172, because Ward likely won't come down to 168. Ward will drag him up.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You got a link showing they tried to make a fight with Ward, or just making stuff up again?

It was DeGale who was offered the fight by Ward's side and accepted.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Why do Ward fans insist on bringing GGG into Ward discussion

But then claim GGG needs Ward. You all say Ward the great fighter. He is a clearly much bigger and longer fighter.

If GGG sucks, then what business does he have jumping up to fight a guy 20 pounds heavier.

It's the kind of test you do for big money, belts, props to prove you can.

Ward is only a test, brings little more.

And Ward won't get no 50/50 unless GGG loses some fights soon, and fails to unify.

And Ward, why doesn't he test himself. Isn't his resume sparkling. Kovalev is waiting.

I wonder why Ward needs advice from God when that fight is brought up, but a smaller MW, he is all in. No ****e he is.

CoWard!

Has anyone heard anything more about that yet ?

Like specifically, the opponent and weight ?

Ward needs to decide on a division before he does anything else.

The weight announced for his next fight will confirm that.

If 170 or under, then he is obviously staying at SMW..... if 172 or above, then he has obviously move to LHW.

Last I knew, Ward was looking at LHW. He said he walks around at 180, rehydrates to 185-190 on fight night.

I'm not sure he can drain enough to make 168 anymore.

Both sleeping on Ward imho.

I agree with you regarding the eye test.

But there is so much more to boxing at an elite level.

What we do know about each fighter is this.....

* Ward has proven himself against a number of top guys who fight using a range of different styles

* Degale is yet to solve the Groves puzzle

Inactivity doesn't change the fact that Ward is one of the most well-rounded fighters in the game today, and his RingIQ is superb.

Even if that fight was held in Degales back yard (I guess I am kinda leaving myself open for a good ol Oakland back-hander here) Ward would still be a significant betting favorite imo.

Not fighting has a huge impact on ability. The same as fighting all the time makes you sharper.

Ward could very well be the same dirty trick holding fighter he always was, but that tune-up against Smith hardly looked very promising.

If u so loath warm up fights then the target of your your ire should be GGG not Ward , as GGG has had at least 20 warm ups in a row .

GGG has fought ranked fighters the last 4 years. He is fighting for yet another belt.

He is mandatory to Cotto and Canelo.

Your constant yapping still doesn't pass the smell test.

Ward has quite literally faced nobody in two years. Has admitted to doing another couple tune-ups before he fights anyone challenging.

Sorry, but a two year layoff doesn't warrant two years of tune-ups.

In that time GGG will probably gain another two belts, and possibly unify the division while being crowned Lineal Champ.

Maybe even getting a shot at Canelo, a 175 pound Jr.MW (right).

And when Ward and GGG does happen, and Ward succumbs to body blows, what will you say then.

I bet it's Ward's inactivity made him a different fighter.

If guys refuse to fight GGG, while standing in the way of unification, it's not his fault.

He surely can't be expected to fight JR.MW Lara coming off a loss to Canelo. The fight is a no win. He knocks Lara cold, it's because Lara was small, a tin can.

You'd just say, well Lara small. Cotto small. Canelo small (which is stupid).

What about Andrade, too inactive.

Eubanks, too young. Although Eubanks turned down GGG fight.

I get it, don't worry.

DeGale has obviously tore a page out of GGG's handbook . Mentioning Wards name by saying "I'm looking at Ward" isn't the same as saying "I want to fight Ward" . These r the types of bold statements that make u relevant when fans can't decipher through the interference/noise .

Actually, GGG isn't out mentioning Ward. They were looking for fights, at 169 and on. Doesn't mean they take everyone of them. They take the one that makes most sense. And it isn't clear Ward is a 168 fighter. Hell, he always drained to be one.

Ward was hurt the first time offered a GGG match, or he said he was. HBO was involved then.

Second time GGG was losing weight for possible Cotto fight, so a catch weight was offered. Ward can't make 164 (although he had said he could make 160 for Floyd).

So Ward sends a contract for next Fall (2016), which would have both doing 1 tune-up then fighting.

And what, GGG is supposed to say no to two opportunities to unify, two PPV, to fight a guy who can't sell out a fight in his home state.

Ward needs GGG, not the other way around.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the truth in that.

[aboutfkntime]

second, he'll have to go up to at least 172, because Ward likely won't come down to 168. Ward will drag him up.

You have no idea if that is true, you completely made that up.

Wards next fight will tell an OBVIOUS story.

If he weighs 170 or less = SMW..... if he weighs 172 or more = LHW.

According to Ward he is a SMW, so why would he not fight at 168 ?

If Ward cannot make 168 after 2 tuneups, then those 2 tuneups were a complete waste of our time/energy, as well as his.

Time will tell.

[Eastcoast]

It was DeGale who was offered the fight by Ward's side and accepted.

So there's a link to show all that?

[aboutfkntime]

Why do Ward fans insist on bringing GGG into Ward discussion

We dont.

We know that Golovkin has 0 interest in Ward, so we have moved on.

Ward needs to do the same.

The question is, why do Team Golovkin keep mentioning Ward ?

Look here.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/video-abe...re-ward--96589

It is obvious that Golovkin will not fight Ward, so why does Sanchez keep mentioning his name?

The fact of the matter is, Sanchez feels compelled to continually defend their failure to fight Ward, because the media as well as fans are constantly bringing it up.

guiltyconscienceyo

#teamgggknowwhatsup

#anyonefrom154-168doe

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So there's a link to show all that?

Andre Ward talked about it on an interview with FightHype.

Here's Ambrose Mendy talking about it at 2.20



Stay in denial. Just because your boy wants nothing to do with Ward, don't project your fears onto others.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Actually, it's not GGG mentioning Ward, it's Ward

You have no idea if that is true, you completely made that up.

Wards next fight will tell an OBVIOUS story.

If he weighs 170 or less = SMW..... if he weighs 172 or more = LHW.

According to Ward he is a SMW, so why would he not fight at 168 ?

If Ward cannot make 168 after 2 tuneups, then those 2 tuneups were a complete waste of our time/energy, as well as his.

Time will tell.

He fought at 172 last fight. 3 pounds shy of LHW.

If he fights at 170, it's still not SMW.

And if he can't get down to 168 by now, he isn't likely too.

Which is why Dan Rafael said this, ”He (Ward) is working on a deal that if completed would have him on the card and as a light heavy. His days at 168 are done,” Rafael said via his chat last Friday on ESPN.com.

We dont.

We know that Golovkin has 0 interest in Ward, so we have moved on.

Ward needs to do the same.

The question is, why do Team Golovkin keep mentioning Ward ?

Look here.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/video-abe...re-ward--96589

It is obvious that Golovkin will not fight Ward, so why does Sanchez keep mentioning his name?

The fact of the matter is, Sanchez feels compelled to continually defend their failure to fight Ward, because the media as well as fans are constantly bringing it up.

guiltyconscienceyo

#teamgggknowwhatsup

#anyonefrom154-168doe

Ward mentioned GGG. He claimed the contract was sent well before GGG PPV was signed (not that it means much, but he said it).

After that, Abel Sanchez was let off the leash Ward personally was said to have requested.

So why shouldn't he correct the record.

He is basically calling for Ward to back up his claims, that's hardly constitutes "keeps mentioning Ward."

And look at what Ward gained from it.

His recent fight didn't sell out, in his home state. He isn't popular.

But now whenever GGG is mentioned, which is quite often on boxing sites, Wards name comes up.

Ward is the one actively calling out GGG.

And GGG himself doesn't talk about Ward at all.

GGG made one comment to correct the record, when he said they offered Ward a fight, and he said no.

According to Ward, his offer was to fight GGG next fall too, a dumb contract that would of tied GGG hands right when he is blowing up. Right when he is making big fights, Ward comes along and says his name.

The same thing many others are doing now.

Eubanks did it the other day, so did Sr. (Although Eubanks had a shot at GGG and turned it down).

Tureano Johnson is now mentioning GGG to get his name out.

GGG's fan base is growing, and fast. It's why Roach now is saying GGG could be the future, when months ago he was claiming no one knew who GGG was.

And the Media is Hardly talking about Ward period, and the last article I seen about GGG and Ward claimed GGG has no reason to fig Ward, it's risk with no reward yet.

The exact argument GGG's team has basically made. That it makes no sense.

[aboutfkntime]

He fought at 172 last fight. 3 pounds shy of LHW.

If he fights at 170, it's still not SMW.

And if he can't get down to 168 by now, he isn't likely too.

Which is why Dan Rafael said this, ”He (Ward) is working on a deal that if completed would have him on the card and as a light heavy. His days at 168 are done,” Rafael said via his chat last Friday on ESPN.com.

Interesting, I never heard that.

Last I heard from Ward he confirmed that he is a SMW.

I told you that his next fight would tell the whole story

Ward mentioned GGG. He claimed the contract was sent well before GGG PPV was signed (not that it means much, but he said it).

After that, Abel Sanchez was let off the leash Ward personally was said to have requested.

So why shouldn't he correct the record.

They had already " corrected the record ", last week.....

Sanchez comments were made today.

He is basically calling for Ward to back up his claims, that's hardly constitutes "keeps mentioning Ward."

And look at what Ward gained from it.

His recent fight didn't sell out, in his home state. He isn't popular.

But now whenever GGG is mentioned, which is quite often on boxing sites, Wards name comes up.

Exactly, and dont think it is any different for Sanchez.

Sanchez has been fending off Ward since they first started using that "anyone from 154-168" schtick.

Sanchez feels compelled to comment, and I know why.

Ward is the one actively calling out GGG.

Not if he has decided to move to LHW, like you just stated.

And GGG himself doesn't talk about Ward at all.

GGG made one comment to correct the record, when he said they offered Ward a fight, and he said no.

According to Ward, his offer was to fight GGG next fall too, a dumb contract that would of tied GGG hands right when he is blowing up. Right when he is making big fights, Ward comes along and says his name.

The same thing many others are doing now.

Eubanks did it the other day, so did Sr. (Although Eubanks had a shot at GGG and turned it down).

Tureano Johnson is now mentioning GGG to get his name out.

GGG's fan base is growing, and fast. It's why Roach now is saying GGG could be the future, when months ago he was claiming no one knew who GGG was.

And the Media is Hardly talking about Ward period, and the last article I seen about GGG and Ward claimed GGG has no reason to fig Ward, it's risk with no reward yet.

The exact argument GGG's team has basically made. That it makes no sense.

So, Golovkin is not this avoided killer who will fight anyone, he is actually subject to the exact same risk/reward decisions as any other fighter?

And based on that, his current resume is exactly what they wanted.

Right ?

[Progrssive_Jedi]

We dont.

We know that Golovkin has 0 interest in Ward, so we have moved on.

Ward needs to do the same.

The question is, why do Team Golovkin keep mentioning Ward ?

Look here.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/video-abe...re-ward--96589

It is obvious that Golovkin will not fight Ward, so why does Sanchez keep mentioning his name?

The fact of the matter is, Sanchez feels compelled to continually defend their failure to fight Ward, because the media as well as fans are constantly bringing it up.

guiltyconscienceyo

#teamgggknowwhatsup

#anyonefrom154-168doe

So, Golovkin is not this avoided killer who will fight anyone, he is actually subject to the exact same risk/reward decisions as any other fighter?

And based on that, his current resume is exactly what they wanted.

Right ?

Ok, your premise is GGG is just avoided by everyone that has something to lose, not those who need to do something.

Well if a LHW named Ward is the only person not avoiding GGG, IM PRETTY SURE HE IS DOING FINE.

However, Ward fought Dawson at 168. Dawson wanted what Ward, so he came down for him.

When GGG has discussed Floyd, he talks about going down where Floyd owns a belt.

But when Ward wants GGG (in a year and 4 months mind you), GGG must forgo two PPV, and a shot at a MW unification, and Lineal Crown, to jump up to a weight he has never fought at, just because Ward says so.


So let us look at this hypothetically in another way

So if GGG send Floyd Mayweather a contract to fight in Jan of 2017 (a year and 4 months), and in said contract, it says Floyd has to come up to 160, take one tune up, and then wait until GGG is ready.

And Floyd has potentially two WW PPV unification bouts, and a possible WW Lineal Championship to win.

Would you claim Floyd is ducking GGG if he refuses?

Or would you say what should be painfully clear, GGG wasn't really asking to fight Floyd, he was doing a PR stunt.

The truth is this

And yes, everyone in the MW division with something that interest GGG is avoiding him.

Those who are not, supposedly, is Lara, who would have nothing to offer, but much to gain. And isn't a MW would fight him.

GGG gets little respect for beating Lara, dude is small.

Same reason I think Canelo is a joke, he beat Lara, but by a tad, and while weighing a lot more than him.

So the MW lineal Champion Cotto Ducks him twice.

Canelo who weighs more and is supposedly the future likely Ducks him.

Yea, he is avoided. Barring given someone like Ward a shot.

And yes, that's a risky fight. Ward is a natural LHW, who addmittedly walks around at 180, and fights around 185-190.

That's a 15-20 pound difference.

It's like saying well Ward isn't avoided, because the Heavy Weight Champ will fight him.