Pacquaio obviously had the better career but both as featherweights - Naz sparks him clean out.
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Prince Naseem Hamed v Manny Pacquiao
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Pacquaio had a chin? The guy looked like he'd gone into a coma off a jab once at the lighter weights . And was stopped twice.
Naz was the one who had a chin. He took heavy shots and went down but was never once hurt in his entire career.
Prince would love him charging forward with all that wild **** because he'd walk him onto one of his bombs and wooop dere it is! TIIIIIIMMBERRR!
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Originally posted by sunny31 View PostYeah...nobodies, only a bunch of alphabet champions. I hate this misconception, its so misinformed and ignorant. He beat a lot of good/very good fighters, just not any really outstanding one's. His career is more reminiscent of Mike Tyson then Gennady Golovkin at this point. He beat everyone around his day at featherweight, and although it might not have been the strongest featherweight division we have seen, it was solid enough and he cleaned it out. He beat 9 future/present/or past world champions in a 5 year period. That along with his incredible showmanship which made 7 figure pay days possible for him and future fighters in the lower weight classes is probably why he got voted in the IBHOF this year.
He lost to Barrera comprehensively, but I always felt there was an overreaction because A - Hamed was an overwhelming favourite and often took on a villain role similar to Mayweather. B - Everyone underestimated Barrera massively, he went on to prove himself to be a first ballot HOF, and probably a ATG featherweight. Finally and this is not an excuse, but in hindsight looking back Hamed was clearly out of his prime and the motivation had wained by the time the fight happened.
To suggest a guy whose best wins were Kelly and McCullough cleaned out his division is laughable.
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Originally posted by Johnny2x2x View PostYou must be joking right? Who are his biggest wins against? Freaking Wayne McCullough? Kevin Kelly? Erik Morales called him out, so did Floyd Mayweather at 130, he didn't answer the bell. Heck, he could have fought Ayala.
To suggest a guy whose best wins were Kelly and McCullough cleaned out his division is laughable.
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Just cause floyd beat pac, don't think for 1 second pac still ain't a great fighter .
Pac would destroy hamed .....
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Pacquiao is a top 20 ATG, there is no comparison in terms of who was better prime for prime, however, if they two had ever fought at FW, prime v prime...now that could have been magic.
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Originally posted by Johnny2x2x View PostYou must be joking right? Who are his biggest wins against? Freaking Wayne McCullough? Kevin Kelly? Erik Morales called him out, so did Floyd Mayweather at 130, he didn't answer the bell. Heck, he could have fought Ayala.
To suggest a guy whose best wins were Kelly and McCullough cleaned out his division is laughable.
In terms of his accomplishments, I am not sure if Kevin Kelley or Wayne McCullough were his best wins, because quite frankly he beat a lot of guys of a similar level to those guys. Manuel Medina was a good win, and become featherweight champion again twice after Hamed beat him. Tom Johnson was a good featherweight champion (IBF) when Hamed beat him albeit slightly past his prime, but still a good win. Paul Ingle was a very underrated win, went on to win the IBF strap after Hamed knocked him out, Ingle beat Medina and Junior Jones. Hamed beat Cezar Soto for the WBC strap (not the best performance). When Hamed beat Vuyani Bungu he had been on a long unbeaten run and been Super Bantamweight champion for around 6 years, in that run he beat Kennedy Mckinney twice.
These guys were good fighters, whether you care to admit it or not. I am not sure what you consider cleaning out a division, but he beat all the other champions, so I'm pretty sure that qualifies, he pretty much unified without keeping the belts occupied, you can't do much more than that. This does not even include the fact that he beat Steve Robinson for a strap in his 20th fight, aged 21. Going into the guys backyard and totally annihilating him like he did at that age was impressive.
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You know why Barrera was so successful against Hamed? He fought a smart fight waiting for Hamed to attack. countering but taking little risk. Completely opposite to what Pacquiao would do. Pacquiao's style was exactly what Hamed would thrive on.
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