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  • #21
    Jeff Lacy

    This is like saying Floyd belongs in the HOF because he beat up Jesus Chavez.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
      Jeff Lacy

      This is like saying Floyd belongs in the HOF because he beat up Jesus Chavez.
      actually jesus chavez was a much more accomplished fighter than jeff lacy. it's like saying floyd should be in the hall because he beat phillip ndou. who?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Money Team. View Post
        Joe was lineal champ at 168

        and Ring champ at 175

        Joes career ****s all over Ottke's

        Why people criticize this man so much is amazing..he is a certified 1st ballot Hall of famer and EARNED IT....
        How nice to see you saying something sensible for a change.....and.... although we see it, it's still hard to believe...... not a word about that great Roman, Phonius Phloydius.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
          Ottke is a shoe in

          Undefeated with 22 str8 title defenses? Knocking out iron chinned Mundine on a rocket of a punch? It will be a travesty if he doesnt get it
          You may be right...and you may be wrong....but I am right, the hyphenated word is spelled "shoo-in". others have made the same error, I apologise for just picking on you.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
            Jeff Lacy

            This is like saying Floyd belongs in the HOF because he beat up Jesus Chavez.
            Lacy was an undefeated double world champion when Calzaghe beat him. Chavez neither. However, no one is saying he should get in on the basis of Lacy alone, but rather his entire body of work.

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            • #26
              Joe will get in for sure. Ottke no. Fat Dans votes were Oscar, Tito, and Joey C. Those are pretty much shoe ins tbh. Joe might not have always fought the best and might not be as good as his contemporaries in their primes, but he was still undisputed at 168 and did eventually fight them, while Hopkins was still good, though Roy far far faded. He might get some hate and some of it is due...but not all of it. Those 3 will more than likely make it or else something is wrong with the IBHOF

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              • #27
                He beat solid guys in a watered down era.
                Looked ugly vs roy in fight 2 and both dawson fights.
                He is beating clouds of the world.
                B hop cant beat kovalev , maybe stevenson.

                But your basing someones career on beating popkins.
                Joe stayed home till the dust settled.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by The Weebler I View Post
                  Lacy was an undefeated double world champion when Calzaghe beat him. Chavez neither. However, no one is saying he should get in on the basis of Lacy alone, but rather his entire body of work.

                  So who did lacy beat to win those belts?
                  Where do you rank lacy alltime ?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Jc8804 View Post
                    So why is joe getting then ?
                    He crossed the big pond when everyone said he wouldn't and then beat americas favorites when they said he wouldn't. Spare me "they weren't in their primes". Joe wasn't either, took the fight, out of his hometown, unlike 2 fighters, and beat them at their own games.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Money Team. View Post
                      Undefeated Kessler

                      Undefeated Reid

                      Hopkins-who was Ring champ and top p4p

                      Undefeated Lacy who was #1 at 168


                      at his peak was p4p#2

                      held 2 ring titles at one time

                      had EVERY DAMN TITLE AT 168


                      kill the hate the man deserves to be in the HALL OF FAME AND WILL BE IN...HATE ON
                      Cut it out. You don't even like Joe. You're just bigging him up because he retired undefeated they way you hope Floyd will. You used to **** all over Calzaghe til prior to the last 12 months.

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