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Why does GGG have to move up this early?
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Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View PostAndy Lee, Quillin, Lemiux were in GGG's division for years. He's just barely now fighting one of them. Reason? Promoter issues. I don't see any difference.
Peter Quilin, we all know he didn't want the fight.
Lemiuex, He is fighting him just for the title. Good fight, but thats all.
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Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View PostWho cares if they turned pro earlier, we can go by number of fights. Floyd and Cotto have done more in the number of fights than GGG did. We can play this game all day and I'll win because GGG's resume is ****. Because MW is ****. Someone said he fought top 10 MW's... And? Who gives a **** if they suck? Why would we compare the number of years they've been pro's? Why don't we compare the number of years Floyd and Cotto were amateurs then since your so big on that number. It's irrelevant. Forget age, forget years in the game just go by number of pro fights and compare resumes. GGG gets **** ON.
Stop with "he had promoter issues..." "He started late..." That's his problem, not mine. It's excuses for something you were just trying to defend. So which is it? Has done well at MW or is it not as good because of promotional issues?
Also, not a Ward fan at all to whoever the idiot said I was. I just hold a guy to his word when he runs his mouth. I think he's a good fighter but he's been guided very well to look good, all he has to do is fight Ward to prove he's got the goods. That's all it takes and he had the fight right there and didn't take it. Why does he have to move up? He doesn't, neither did Cotto he can make 154 just fine. Neither did Floyd when he moves up to 154 he can make 147 just fine and goes back down.
They did it for LEGACY and money. Fighting Ward means more money and GGG's first real shot a big name win and if he were to win he'd get instant credibility. And again, I don't even like Ward. But he's a good fighter, the best fighter GGG would have faced by a mile and that's all I'm asking of him. Everyone knows he beats Cotto and Canelo, he beats anyone at 160 and under. I've seen him beat the **** out of people, let's see him challanged in a fair fight. The fact that GGG fans have a problem with that is the sad part. Defending a clear duck while begging to fight guys in their 4th weightclass and GGG "doesn't have to move up." Because he's little doe.
If you wanna compare Floyd, Pac and Cotto at 33 fights versus GGG, I've no problem with that....
(That was my entire point)Last edited by BazookaGomez; 07-30-2015, 02:35 PM.
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostTo compare what Floyd and Manny did be the time they were 33 to what GGG did by age 33 is unfair and stupid. They turned pro as teenagers. A fair and intelligent comparison would be how much GGG has accomplished in the number of years he has been a pro compared to what Floyd and Manny accomplished in the SAME number of years from when they first turned pro. This irrational hate you have for GGG who is an excellent fighter and a nice guy is what is embarrassing.
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostTo compare what Floyd and Manny did be the time they were 33 to what GGG did by age 33 is unfair and stupid. They turned pro as teenagers. A fair and intelligent comparison would be how much GGG has accomplished in the number of years he has been a pro compared to what Floyd and Manny accomplished in the SAME number of years from when they first turned pro. This irrational hate you have for GGG who is an excellent fighter and a nice guy is what is embarrassing.
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Originally posted by sicko View PostHe really doesn't have to, I don't know why Abel Sanchez and GGG fans decided to start mentioning Andre Ward to begin with.
Now that Ward is back I see fans wanting to turn into Victims and they want Ward to "Move Up" now but when Ward was away with Promotional Issues it was "GGG Would Destroy Ward!" "GGG Would Knock Out Ward In 6 Rounds!". However, not that Ward is back and he is pushing for that fight, people are not as confident or bold as they once was and they want him to move up to 175
I think it would be best of GGG Team would just be honest and say "Let Me Clean Up At 160 First And Once He Is Finish At 160 He Hopes To Fight Ward At 168 In The Near Future!" But I understand people have their PRIDE and they want to maintain this Boogyman IMAGE!
As for who started this pile of steaming crap in the first place... I seem to remember Ward's lawyer sending an email to Lampley that was read on air after a GGG fight. An email that Ward never followed up on because he had other things to deal with, like losing in court, and which he and his team later denied any responsibility for.
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Originally posted by Kagami Taiga View Post*facepalm* floyd was a lineal champ after just over 1 year if I'm not mistaken. Manny beat ledwaba in about the sane time to win his first title. Both guys were already well on their way to being ATGs by the time they reached 30 fights or about a decade in the sport
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