Originally posted by VatoMulatto
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Why didn't Roy Jones clean out the HW division after beating Ruiz?
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Because Jones, a natural light heavyweight was not able to beat all the heavyweights. Ruiz was hand picked because he was not very good and quite slow making him a perfect heavyweight for Jones to defeat. It was a stunt for Jones to brag he beat a heavyweight champion. Lewis would have crushed Jones and Jones knew it and never asked to fight Lennox Lewis. Lewis had way to much size, speed and power for any light heavyweight.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostEven against a way past it Tyson, that would have been dangerous, because Roy himself was past prime already in 2003 going to 2004. Hell, it could have been Tyson who Tarvered Jones had they fought. But getting KO'ed by Tyson would have been much more respectable.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostEven against a way past it Tyson, that would have been dangerous, because Roy himself was past prime already in 2003 going to 2004. Hell, it could have been Tyson who Tarvered Jones had they fought. But getting KO'ed by Tyson would have been much more respectable.
I agree had Tyson knocked him the fluck out it wouldn't be a big deal, it's Tyson after all.
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Originally posted by VatoMulatto View PostRoy was looking for a HW he could beat. The only reason Roy moved up to HW was because Ruiz had a title. He was never serious about taking on someone like Lennox Lewis.
I know he was half serious about facing Tyson. I would've loved to see Roy vs Tyson back in 2003-04. Roy really messed up his career and hurt his legacy after his win over Ruiz.
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Originally posted by VatoMulatto View PostStep into the ring with Tyson is always dangerous but back in 2003 after his win over Ruiz none of us knew or felt Roy was past his prime. He was on top of the world after that performance against Ruiz, P4P number one and everybody wanted to see him stay at HW. At that time a lot of people favored Jones to beat Tyson or at least gave him a very good chance to beat him.
I agree had Tyson knocked him the fluck out it wouldn't be a big deal, it's Tyson after all.
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Because it was a one time thing. He knew he couldn't go against the likes of Lennox Lewis. He immediately dropped the belt and moved back to 175, like a good boy. 7 months later he fought Tarver and won a disputed decision. Then fought him again 6 months later (14 months after the Ruiz fight) and got KTFO. He just got old is all, reflexes weren't the same at 35.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostHe showed he was past his best form in the Gonzalez fight. Although Gonzalez was a very good fighter who also beat Glen Johnson and Dariusz Michaelwichdfdsjfd after being beaten by Roy, it was the fight that Roy started to lean on the ropes more and stopped moving around so much. Rewatch Jones-Gonzalez and watch him become more lazy with his movement. JSG gave him a tough fight even though Jones won clearly. Roy was a 90s fighter, so it's okay that he became past his best in 2003-2004 at mid 30s, it's pretty normal.
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