Is Cuba The Next Philippines?

[bigcursedawg]

just amateur talent, thats it...

Maybe now, but not before the communist revolution.

Kid Gavilan, Kid Chocolate, Jose Napoles, Sugar Ramos, and Casamayor were all very good pros.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by DosRounds

No Cuba is Cuba. Always has had top talent from day 1

just amateur talent, thats it...

You need to educate yourself in the sport and stop repeating bull**** that read around here. Cuba has had PLENTY of talent in the pro ranks. Clown.


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[bigcursedawg]

Don't see how anyone can rate them higher then pac tbh

Because you don't know much history.

Gavilan went 25 rounds with a prime Robinson. He lost both fights but wasn't stopped and never went down against the best welterweight of all time.
Not to mention Gavilan beat Ike Williams, Beau Jack, Billy Graham, and Chuck Davey, all of them in in the hall of fame.

Pacquiao was just knocked out by a 40 year old, blown up featherweight. Its not even close in comparison.

[Snake...]

Because you don't know much history.

Gavilan went 25 rounds with a prime Robinson. He lost both fights but wasn't stopped and never went down against the best welterweight of all time.
Not to mention Gavilan beat Ike Williams, Beau Jack, Billy Graham, and Chuck Davey, all of them in in the hall of fame.

Pacquiao was just knocked out by a 40 year old, blown up featherweight. Its not even close in comparison.

Lol so basically his best win is a loss?

[Cuban Linx]

With all due respect to Filipino boxing, they don't have good training over there and their programs suck.

Pacquiao, Donaire and Viloria all came to the states to either learn how to box or get better.

Cuba has a top 3 boxing amateur program in the world, up there with GBR and Ukraine. The transition to the pro's has usually been successful for the fighters. They will always breed great boxers as long as they preach defense first.

[Bretty Poy32]

‘New Philippines’ in Cuba

MANILA, Philippines ? Cuba and the Philippines share more than a common colonial past: The third largest province in Cuba, Pinar Del Rio was formerly called Nueva Filipinas (New Philippines) in the mid-18th century.

The area evidently became known as Nueva Filipinas as a result of the influx of Asians?Chinese, Japanese, Filipinos and other Asians?who came to work in the region's extensive tobacco fields, according to the Philippine embassy in Havana.

Philippine Ambassador to Cuba MacArthur Corsino led the Philippine delegation that visited the province on December 11 to 12 to strengthen the historical and cultural ties between the two countries. The delegation, which included Mrs. Bernadette C. Corsino, Vice Consul Jason J. Anasarias, and Mrs. Asteria D. Aguilloso, was welcomed by acting president Jesus Rafael Fernandez Echevarri of the Provincial Asssembly of Popular Power of Pinar del Rio province. City historian Juan Carlos Rodriguez Alfonso and provincial firector for international relations Juan Palados Menendez also led lectures on the province.

From the lectures, it was learned that Filipino and other Asian workers reached Cuba sailing in the Manila-Acapulco galleons that crossed the Pacific Ocean regularly from the late 16th century until 1815.

Manila was the jump-off point for all Spanish trade coming from East Asia, while Havana was the take-off point for Spanish trading ships sailing from Latin America to Spain.

Most of the Asians who landed in Cuba went on to work in Nueva Filipinas. They were generally called ?Chinos Manila," as Manila was very famous among the Cuban population at that time.

Later in the 19th century, Nueva Filipinas was gradually supplanted with its present name, after a new capital of the same name overshadowed the former Nueva Filipinas capital of Guane.

The delegation was also given a tour of the Pinar del Rio provincial museum, the city museum of natural history, the Trinidad cigar factory, and the city cathedral. The Filipinos also visited the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (Unesco) bio-heritage site of Vinales, where the town historian Ricardo Alvarez Perez acted as their guide.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/new...ppines-in-Cuba

[sugarsmosley]

Philipines got a top ATG #1 P4P and a HOF top P4P,
Cuba has.. Rigondeux who's pro career is no where near being HOF worthy and who's talents will probably end up on FNF

bad comparison

Lara and Gamboa are pretty good too! Amature talent has got to count for something.

[BendOver]

Idk about that pac is greater then any cuban ever...

No he is not, Kid Chocolate was a Champion when were only 6 or 7 divisions, Gavilan, Paret, Napoles, Ramos, Rodriguez and Legra too, from 126 which was Chocolate best weight to Gavilan, Napoles, Rodriguez 147 could had kick Pacroid a$$, on that list are a least 3 ATG, go do your home work boy...

[BendOver]

Lol so basically his best win is a loss?

No your idiot, the two fights were close and his best wins are those HOF like Ike, More etc, no catch weight there and only one division no JR or Super, either you fought at 112,118,126, 135, 147, 160, 175 or HW

[jaded]

The Cuban boxing system has been producing way more top level talent than The Philippines or anywhere for more than 40 years. They may very well produce the best boxers in the world but except unless they can defect they can't turn pro and defecting is not easy to do. They groom them from the cradle practically. They all live together and basically become wards of the boxing system/state. They live the life 24/7 compared to kids here whose parents take them to train with a coach a few times a week?

Here is a very good documentary about it.