How can people easily forget?

[miron_lang]

How can people **** Manny Pacquiao's recent opponents? what the **** is wrong with these people? Fighters losing automatically become shot fighters?

Would you pick undefeated Andre Berto to beat Shane Mosley?

Barrera got knocked out he came back and win again
Morales and Marquez lost they came back and win titles again.


Is the standard "Rank a fighter on his last loss"?

Manny Pacquiao's last 5 opponents

Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto
Joshua Clottey
Antonio Margarito
Shane Mosley

Ricky Hatton was undeafeated at 140 and was RING Lineal Champion ( Given )

Now after the DLH fight in 2008 ( which was Pac's 1st @147 ) here is the RING Welterweight Rankings

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...rweight--2000s

1. Antonio Margarito
2. Miguel Angel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Carlos Quintana
7. Zab Judah
8. Luis Collazo
9. Andre Berto
10. Isaac Hlatshwayo



So Entering the Welterweight Division in 2008 PAC has fought and will fight all the TOP 5 Welterweights!




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Yeah i understand the Made to order, Plodding fighter, tailor made, hasnt look good in awhile, peds and all the others ****s.


Please respond with actual data and educated opinion pls

[Jack Napier]

nobody forgot manong
if Pac wasn't Floyd's nemesis, Floyd**** wouldn't be complaining
Pac's like Roy, kicking ass so much he makes good comp look bad

[Slyboots]

I almost forgot. Thanks for reminding me.

[Russian Crushin]

Berto should still be #9

[led]

nobody forgot manong
if Pac wasn't Floyd's nemesis, Floyd**** wouldn't be complaining
Pac's like Roy, kicking ass so much he makes good comp look bad

[Steak]

well, Margarito has looked like crap since Cotto, and was totally unranked when Pacquiao fought him...not to mention he was suspended for a year and a few months. those rankings were three years ago...a LOT can happen in 3 years.

Mosley obviously has fallen off a lot too, especially after his sad outing against Mora, which looked even worse in hindsight after Brain Vera beat up Mora better than Mosley did.


its not like people forget that Pacquiao is an ATG, its just that its true...Martinez HAS done more in the last year than Pacquiao has, even though legacy wise Pacquiao is far ahead of him.

p4p lists are based off of who is doing the best currently, and that means youre not supposed to reach back more than a year or a year and a half or so...
after all, most people have Mayweather unranked now, because hes done jack **** in the last year. same thing.

[Termite]

they dont forget it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they discredited pac's win to make floyd look good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tru story!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dempsey-Roll]

its not pac's fault that margarito, mosley, and cotto lost to each other. pac was just the new kid in town and who else at WW could he fight during that time??

ppl can easily forget. hell i can go through old threads and bump them when ppl were talking like "haha pacs too small for WW, he'll get his ass kicked etc etc"

[miron_lang]

well, Margarito has looked like crap since Cotto, and was totally unranked when Pacquiao fought him...not to mention he was suspended for a year and a few months. those rankings were three years ago...a LOT can happen in 3 years.

That was the Ranking when he entered the division. that's what i am talking about. When a fighter lost he's a bum?

Mosley and Margarito beats Berto as of this moment.

Mosley obviously has fallen off a lot too, especially after his sad outing against Mora, which looked even worse in hindsight after Brain Vera beat up Mora better than Mosley did.


its not like people forget that Pacquiao is an ATG, its just that its true...Martinez HAS done more in the last year than Pacquiao has, even though legacy wise Pacquiao is far ahead of him.

p4p lists are based off of who is doing the best currently, and that means youre not supposed to reach back more than a year or a year and a half or so...
after all, most people have Mayweather unranked now, because hes done jack **** in the last year. same thing.

Martinez has done the better work lately?

I DISAGREE COMPLETELY.

Pac's last 5 opponents

Margarito UD12
Clottey UD12
Cotto TKO12
Hatton KO2
Dela Hoya TKO8



Sergios's Last 5 opponents

Dzinruk TKO 8
Williams KO2
Pavlik UD12
William LMD12
Cintron MD12




Can you rationalize Martinez having the better competition?

[SCtrojansbaby]

LMAO Andre Berto or any other top 20 welterweight would knockout Shane right now