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As a matter of fact, Floyd's style has been specifically crafted, molded to beat ANY style. Lets face it, Floyd doesn't give a **** about casual fans. He doesn't give a **** what is good for the sport. He's just trying to cash out as much as he can. To him, this is a business and thats it. "Legacy don't pay the bills".
To avoid an "L" on his record, he'll take the least risks possible. He doesn't care how boring the win would be. He would have already suckered casual fans into buying the fight. The money is would already be there. Regardless, Cotto pretty much showed how you can be effective against Pacquiao besides just counterpunching. Its exactly what I've been saying prior to the fight. You have to jab and be first.
Prior to the Cotto/Pacquiao fight, I asked you to ask yourselves, is Cotto a better technician than Marquez? Is he a better counterpuncher? Manny Cotto fans FOOLISHLY believed Cotto was an all around better fighter than Marquez. But obviously, you saw that he wasn't. Cotto was extremely fast, but didn't have the tools to put his attributes together. He didn't have the experience or ring intelligence to utilize his hand speed and timing.
But you know who does. Floyd "I'm back for legacy, but then again Legacy don't pay the bills, especially if legacy is on steroids, unless legacy's name is Manny Pacquiao" Mayweather.
Floyd has the speed to stick the jab, the intelligence to set up quick right hands and counter punching ability to make Pacquiao cautious. The only true way I can see Pacquiao winning this fight is by becoming very physical with Floyd. Finding a way to get on the inside and rough him up because lingering on the outside would make him a target for Floyd's right hand. Unlike Hatton, Pacquiao has quick enough hands to throw combinations from a close distance, but he would run risk of getting pot shotted. He just may have the beard to withstand it though. He also has the stamina and agility to keep throwing from angles. I think this is a fight were would would see floyd get hit the most and possibly be hurt.
But, regardless, Floyd's style is just wrong for Pacquiao. But, then again, Pacquiao is not the same fighter in every fight. He just gets better.
How can Pacquiao be effective against Floyd?
As I alluded to in the content above, Floyd's fight plan consist of doing as much as possible defensively and doing just enough offensively to win a fight. Well, thats been the fight plan against dangerous opponents and Pacquiao is a dangerous opponent.
The key for Floyd is to make Pacquiao as hesitant as possible and Floyd does that by countering his opponents and striking unexpectedly with a right lead. When Floyd is in "the zone", he'll lean forward face first with his hands down his side. This is when he knows he has his opponent scared to throw a punch, scared to be aggressive and he capitalizes with potshots scoring his points.Now, would Pacquiao fall victim to this?
I believe he CAN. Why? We saw some of this in both Marquez fights. In the rounds Marquez clearly would dominate, he was able to because of his timing and counter punching. During these periods, Pac would just be bouncing and fainting, hesitant to throw, but when he did Marquez would read it a mile away and would counter or Marquez would take advantage of Pac's inactivity and strike first with combinations. This is how and when Floyd would be scoring.
So back the question, how can Pacquiao be effective against Floyd?
By doing what he did to break Marquez's rhythm. Get brave, come to terms with the fact that he WILL be tagged and begin his unpredictable barrage of punches. What Pac can do that DLH, Hatton and Marquez didn't do was throw more than 2-3 punches on a consistant basis. We saw DLH throw these wack ass body shots when Floyd was against the ropes. But DLH was smothering himself throwing arm punches. Hatton would just run at Floyd and either he or Floyd would start hugging. Marquez tried throwing, but he was just too slow swiping at empty air and he just became hesitant and limited his offensive output.
Pac has to continue his offense, not allow himself to fall into that mental trap that Floyd can set. He needs to keep Floyd on the defensive all night. Shoot 2 punches from one angle, throw 3 more from another angle, dip and get out. Floyd cannot be completely defensive if it continues that way, he'll have to open up and become more offensive minded or he WILL lose because he is too defensive and not offensive enough to counter Pac's aggression. Make Mayweather work.
If Pac is throwing 3-4 punch combos, Floyd is blocking 3 of them, but only comes back with a pot shot, Pac is going to score rounds because he's dictating it. If Floyd DOES open up, Pac's hands are fast enough to slip more punches in. But the key is not to linger long enough for Floyd to catch him. 1,2,3,4 and dip out and Floyd WILL tag him. If Pac can manage not being stunned, he will be very successful through out the fight, but...
Can Floyd hurt/stunn Pac?
"Cotto threw everything at Pac and didn't hurt him"
True, but Cotto didn't land anything Pac didn't see coming. We all know its the shots you dont see coming that put the sandman to work. Marquez and Larios stunned him with shots Pac just didn't see. Floyd very well has the ability to create this kind of situation because of his counter punching and fast hands. Pacquiao just has to be prepared for this which is obviously is very hard to do.
So to summarize, Pac must keep Floyd in a defensive state constantly through out the fight. He cannot win by being cautious and hesitant trying to pick his shots. That's Floyd's game and he's pretty damn good at it. The more defensive Floyd gets, the less offensive he becomes and Pacquiao needs to take advantage of that.
Anyway, I'm not just talking out of my ass..
To avoid an "L" on his record, he'll take the least risks possible. He doesn't care how boring the win would be. He would have already suckered casual fans into buying the fight. The money is would already be there. Regardless, Cotto pretty much showed how you can be effective against Pacquiao besides just counterpunching. Its exactly what I've been saying prior to the fight. You have to jab and be first.
Prior to the Cotto/Pacquiao fight, I asked you to ask yourselves, is Cotto a better technician than Marquez? Is he a better counterpuncher? Manny Cotto fans FOOLISHLY believed Cotto was an all around better fighter than Marquez. But obviously, you saw that he wasn't. Cotto was extremely fast, but didn't have the tools to put his attributes together. He didn't have the experience or ring intelligence to utilize his hand speed and timing.
But you know who does. Floyd "I'm back for legacy, but then again Legacy don't pay the bills, especially if legacy is on steroids, unless legacy's name is Manny Pacquiao" Mayweather.
Floyd has the speed to stick the jab, the intelligence to set up quick right hands and counter punching ability to make Pacquiao cautious. The only true way I can see Pacquiao winning this fight is by becoming very physical with Floyd. Finding a way to get on the inside and rough him up because lingering on the outside would make him a target for Floyd's right hand. Unlike Hatton, Pacquiao has quick enough hands to throw combinations from a close distance, but he would run risk of getting pot shotted. He just may have the beard to withstand it though. He also has the stamina and agility to keep throwing from angles. I think this is a fight were would would see floyd get hit the most and possibly be hurt.
But, regardless, Floyd's style is just wrong for Pacquiao. But, then again, Pacquiao is not the same fighter in every fight. He just gets better.
How can Pacquiao be effective against Floyd?
As I alluded to in the content above, Floyd's fight plan consist of doing as much as possible defensively and doing just enough offensively to win a fight. Well, thats been the fight plan against dangerous opponents and Pacquiao is a dangerous opponent.
The key for Floyd is to make Pacquiao as hesitant as possible and Floyd does that by countering his opponents and striking unexpectedly with a right lead. When Floyd is in "the zone", he'll lean forward face first with his hands down his side. This is when he knows he has his opponent scared to throw a punch, scared to be aggressive and he capitalizes with potshots scoring his points.Now, would Pacquiao fall victim to this?
I believe he CAN. Why? We saw some of this in both Marquez fights. In the rounds Marquez clearly would dominate, he was able to because of his timing and counter punching. During these periods, Pac would just be bouncing and fainting, hesitant to throw, but when he did Marquez would read it a mile away and would counter or Marquez would take advantage of Pac's inactivity and strike first with combinations. This is how and when Floyd would be scoring.
So back the question, how can Pacquiao be effective against Floyd?
By doing what he did to break Marquez's rhythm. Get brave, come to terms with the fact that he WILL be tagged and begin his unpredictable barrage of punches. What Pac can do that DLH, Hatton and Marquez didn't do was throw more than 2-3 punches on a consistant basis. We saw DLH throw these wack ass body shots when Floyd was against the ropes. But DLH was smothering himself throwing arm punches. Hatton would just run at Floyd and either he or Floyd would start hugging. Marquez tried throwing, but he was just too slow swiping at empty air and he just became hesitant and limited his offensive output.
Pac has to continue his offense, not allow himself to fall into that mental trap that Floyd can set. He needs to keep Floyd on the defensive all night. Shoot 2 punches from one angle, throw 3 more from another angle, dip and get out. Floyd cannot be completely defensive if it continues that way, he'll have to open up and become more offensive minded or he WILL lose because he is too defensive and not offensive enough to counter Pac's aggression. Make Mayweather work.
If Pac is throwing 3-4 punch combos, Floyd is blocking 3 of them, but only comes back with a pot shot, Pac is going to score rounds because he's dictating it. If Floyd DOES open up, Pac's hands are fast enough to slip more punches in. But the key is not to linger long enough for Floyd to catch him. 1,2,3,4 and dip out and Floyd WILL tag him. If Pac can manage not being stunned, he will be very successful through out the fight, but...
Can Floyd hurt/stunn Pac?
"Cotto threw everything at Pac and didn't hurt him"
True, but Cotto didn't land anything Pac didn't see coming. We all know its the shots you dont see coming that put the sandman to work. Marquez and Larios stunned him with shots Pac just didn't see. Floyd very well has the ability to create this kind of situation because of his counter punching and fast hands. Pacquiao just has to be prepared for this which is obviously is very hard to do.
So to summarize, Pac must keep Floyd in a defensive state constantly through out the fight. He cannot win by being cautious and hesitant trying to pick his shots. That's Floyd's game and he's pretty damn good at it. The more defensive Floyd gets, the less offensive he becomes and Pacquiao needs to take advantage of that.
Anyway, I'm not just talking out of my ass..
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