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everyone makes mistakes and ortiz made a mistake by quittin but honestly the fight was his to win... he still has power and he still has a future... he will be campbell and then he will defeat khan and then everyone will be on his nuts again
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Originally posted by King Tua View Post1 fight.
give me a break.
plus he's a kid.
2) no breaks for anyone
3) exactly, if he starts quitting as a kid, what do you think he's gonna do when he grows up?
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Originally posted by smoothvega View Posteveryone makes mistakes and ortiz made a mistake by quittin but honestly the fight was his to win... he still has power and he still has a future... he will be campbell and then he will defeat khan and then everyone will be on his nuts again
i'd favor him over almost everyone at 147.
maybe mosley could ko him , if he's not too past it.
mayweather might be able to outbox him.
that's about it.
i give him 50/50 to beat pacquiao tbh.
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Originally posted by smoothvega View Posteveryone makes mistakes and ortiz made a mistake by quittin but honestly the fight was his to win... he still has power and he still has a future... he will be campbell and then he will defeat khan and then everyone will be on his nuts again
beating khan won't redeem him. he's gotta beat maidana, even if bradley outboxes him. ortiz needs to get revenge against maidana. that's the only way to redemption.
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Originally posted by King Tua View Postortiz has the tools to beat ANYONE at 140.
i'd favor him over almost everyone at 147.
maybe mosley could ko him , if he's not too past it.
mayweather might be able to outbox him.
that's about it.
cotto vs ortiz is another wild brawl and eventually ortiz quits
ortiz vs berto is a 12 rounder that can go either way
margo makes ortiz quit.
pac makes ortiz quit.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post1) that fight is gonna haunt him for the rest of his life. the only way to erase it is to fight maidana and beat him
2) no breaks for anyone
3) exactly, if he starts quitting as a kid, what do you think he's gonna do when he grows up?
2. he was 22. at 21 pacquiao had already got ktfo twice. one could argue pacquiao quit in the singsurat fight too.
3. are you the same person now as you are at 21? people change. this kind of thing changes fighters. some for the better. some for the worst. it's not smart to label a 21 yr. old kid a quitter yet because of one fight. what if he gets into 3-4 wars the next couple of years? you'd look mighty dumb.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View PostBWHAAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!
for sure mosley will make him quit
floyd would be his best showing since floyd will carry ortiz 12 rounds
pwill outworks him makes him quit.
cotto vs ortiz is another wild brawl and eventually ortiz quits
ortiz vs berto is a 12 rounder that can go either way
margo makes ortiz quit.
pac makes ortiz quit.
mayweather would school him.
williams ain't no fucking welterweight anymore.
yeah because cotto never quits right? i would rather cotto had just quit the way ortiz did than run and not fight for the next 5-6 rounds.
margarito could beat ortiz but margarito might be well past it for all we know.
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