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  • #21
    Originally posted by puga View Post
    very true ...that is the whole point of this thread....and we did'nt even inclde the fact that he was already a 5divsion champion at his starting point.....
    Shat da hell up, Pacquiao is on PEDs... There is no argument for your thread but this... Let us revert to this type of reasoning....

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    • #22
      Originally posted by puga View Post
      first of all, 168 is not a catchweight dumb dumb unless your fighting for a lhw title like leonard did......catcthweight fights did'nt start from pac ..if you balme pac for it...blame everyone else.....
      A LH that negotiates a 168 fight its a CW fight , its not a number outside a division weight that says its CW , its just the fact that a contract weight was set , did you get that

      Now did you apply All of Pacs bull**** conditions to the other fighters , lots of interesting fights can be made if you do , and it really alters the match , just like say SM vs Chad Dawson at 169 lbs ,, what do you think will happen to Dawson with that weight ?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
        A LH that negotiates a 168 fight its a CW fight , its not a number outside a division weight that says its CW , its just the fact that a contract weight was set , did you get that

        Now did you apply All of Pacs bull**** conditions to the other fighters , lots of interesting fights can be made if you do , and it really alters the match , just like say SM vs Chad Dawson at 169 lbs ,, what do you think will happen to Dawson with that weight ?
        He would kick the crap out of sergio martinez at that weight... Vegas would be stupid to make him the underdog... Give and go back to Peds accusations.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Alibata View Post
          Shat da hell up, Pacquiao is on PEDs... There is no argument for your thread but this... Let us revert to this type of reasoning....
          lol.........

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Alibata View Post
            Shat da hell up, Pacquiao is on PEDs... There is no argument for your thread but this... Let us revert to this type of reasoning....
            Dont be so harsh , Pac might not be on PEDS we dont know yet as he doesnt want to be tested , we cant know when he is , but we can sure set up a fight where we know he isnt , there is a difference !! ,,,

            other than that unknown PEDS issue you must add the same overall conditions that Pac forces on his opponents ,,,its not real hard to use Pacs formula of matchmaking and apply it some fantasy fights , try it !

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
              A LH that negotiates a 168 fight its a CW fight , its not a number outside a division weight that says its CW , its just the fact that a contract weight was set , did you get that

              Now did you apply All of Pacs bull**** conditions to the other fighters , lots of interesting fights can be made if you do , and it really alters the match , just like say SM vs Chad Dawson at 169 lbs ,, what do you think will happen to Dawson with that weight ?
              thats what i said dumb dumb......besides ray leonard , who else has fought at 168 as the cut off for a lhw title or similar to that?.....dawson cutting off 7 lbs from hs current weight is not the same as cotto losing 1 lb mofo...when has pac forced any of his oppponnets to drop down 6 lbs?....never....
              Last edited by puga; 05-26-2011, 11:32 PM.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by puga View Post
                thats what i said dumb dumb......besides ray leonard , who else has fought at 168 as the cut off for a lhw title or similar to that?.....dawson cutting off 7 lbs from hs current weight is not the same as cotto losing 1 lb mofo...when has pac forced any of his oppponnets to drop down 6 lbs?....never....
                It was 2lbs with Cotto and 4 with Margo , now considering the body size 2 lbs in a WW would be at least 5lb in a LH ,,,,

                Doesnt matter what other fights have happened its about applying the same standard to others that Pac has ,so apply the equivalent CWs and conditions .. with either coming down like Cotto and Margo or going up like JMM .

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                • #28
                  When are they gonna announce the official numbers for the pacquaio vs mosley glove tapping session, im surprised no threads have been made about it. I guarantee once they numbers come out mayweather vs ortiz will officially be announced, so come on showtime and top rank what are you waiting for release official numbers not bob arums ludacris estimates

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Take The Test View Post
                    i want one of those shirts

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by puga View Post
                      here:

                      pac should fight jmm at 135 and sergio at 154.....that is 19 lbs in between ONLY, they say...cool!

                      lets apply the same to other fighters:

                      martinez- he can fight at 154.....add 19 lbs to that is 173....he should fight lh's like bhop and dawson...****, he should not have problems fighting at smw at all if he was held on the same standards as pac...right?....lol

                      marquez- let's cut him some slack since he is an inferior fighter to pac and start him off at 130..add 19 lbs to is 149...there shouldnt be a problem for him fighting at ww or even at sww (catchweight) if he was held on the same standard as pac.....right?....lol

                      floyd - we all know he cant make less than ww so lets start him off at 146( his official weight vs jmm )....add 19 lbs to that and he should fight as high as 165...thats smw right there....him fighting at middleweight is already asking too much ..but even at smw (cathcweight ) it shouldn be a problem if he was held on the same standards as pac....right ?....lol

                      counterhook?..lol

                      the diffrence is that pac has fought at jmw before, right?.....wrong...pac has fought at jmw as a ww.....if you ask pac to keep doing and ask him to fight at his minimum and maxumum weight depneding on who he is fighting, you should also ask other fighters(esp the ones who claim to be or wannabee p4p king) to do the same....all of these fighter can and should only do one or the other exept pac....is that fair?.....lol...ridiculous aint it?...
                      This is a very well thought out and effective-I hope- suggestion. And you can add...let them fight mostly reigning champions, or at least on a title level. There are far too many malicious, jealous-of-success beings out there, who want to see Manny P. stretched out because he has shown himself to be a decent guy.

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