Why was Fernando Vargas never the same fighter after the Felix Trinidad loss? Can...

[Larry the boss]

After taking a beating like that a boxer loses confidence

[Apprehensive EJ]

Because of CHEATo's loaded gloves and having to resort to low blows when he was almost out.

Was it ever proven that Tito's gloves were loaded that night? And, yes, I remember the low blows -- which really jacked up Vargas. Do you think the low blows could have changed him as a fighter?

Was he not the same? He lost to good fighters. He fought well against Oscar De La Hoya.

He really wasn't the same fighter post Trinidad. He never showed the same speed, power, and chin. Something happened to him in the fight with Trinidad. But what exactly happened? Like, specifically?

I talked to Vargas on my recent trip to Vegas about his fight with Tito. He told me that Tito's punches felt like baseball bats and that it was really suspect. Said he only remembers fragments of the fight. He also recalls Tito's people DENYING Vargas team to check his hand wrapping before the fight. I plan on going to Vegas this year again and hopefully I'll record it. It was a very interesting conversation, dude is cool as ****.

Holy s***! Is Vargas serious? So what's the truth behind Tito's hand wraps? Do you think it was plaster?

He also recalls Tito's people DENYING Vargas team to check his hand wrapping before the fight.

That is very shady of Trinidad and his camp if what Vargas said is true. The athletic commission should have seen that as a red flag and double-checked Trinidad's wraps.

I plan on going to Vegas this year again and hopefully I'll record it. It was a very interesting conversation,

That sounds cool. I would like to hear his side of the story. Then you should interview Trinidad after to get both sides of the story.

[Larry the boss]

u still owe me a sig bet tho,,think i forgoet??

He does not honor bets

[-Kev-]

Damn was just looking at the first 4 rounds, those 2 low blows from Trinidad were no joke.

[Apprehensive EJ]

Hey what's up with you people propping up the dead at their wakes? The fuck kind of morbid sicko's are you people? Have some respect for your dead.


(lol at this one)

These are just a few that I saw, there are more.

Whoa, what the f***?!

[-Kev-]

Yeah that second low blow changed the course of the fight. The momentum was on Vargas side, that took all the air out of him since it was the second one. Vargas seemed reluctant after that, despite having a very good round 3 and 4 momentum before the low blow.

[Apprehensive EJ]

After taking a beating like that a boxer loses confidence

Could you elaborate?

[Willy Wanker]

Vargas would have knocked out Tito if wasn't for getting low blowed. That was bull****.

I'm still a fan of Tito, but I lost some respect for him after that fight.

[Larry the boss]

Could you elaborate?

Ever got your ass kicked before?? ever seen a bully who beats up everyone then finally gets his ass kicked??

[Apprehensive EJ]

Damn was just looking at the first 4 rounds, those 2 low blows from Trinidad were no joke.

How would you describe those two low blows? What do you think they felt like, especially considering they came from a puncher like Trinidad?

Yeah that second low blow changed the course of the fight. The momentum was on Vargas side, that took all the air out of him since it was the second one. Vargas seemed reluctant after that, despite having a very good round 3 and 4 momentum before the low blow.

Do you think that second low blow stayed with him for the rest of his life?