Even one of his biggest nuthuggers says he only on the cusp.
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Wladimir Klitschko...does he deserve to be considered a top 10 all-time heavyweight?
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostHis era may be weak in the eyes of some but so was Joe Louis', Larry Holmes, and Rocky Marciano's era.....dude has beaten all the worthy opponents of his era and has shown the ability to comeback after big losses. I have to say he is on the cusp, there is no one really left for him to fight. He is for sure a hall of famer
In a weak era there's no excuse not to take these fights.
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Originally posted by Joeyzagz View PostWlad's been KOd 3 times, AND his resume is piss poor.
Show me another top 10er who has been KOD 3 fckin times and has a resume as bland as Wladimirs?
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Originally posted by jimmy1569 View PostLennox Lewis comes close KOD 2 TIMES... RETIREE on another. Wlad never went to sleep... Lewis went to sleep once..... so I'd say Lewis is right on the cusp of that equation Joe C.
But 3 times is a different threshold altogether. You wont find many ATGs with 3 kos on their record. And the ones that do were past prime or had a hell of a resume to back it up.
Who has Wlad fought to warrant being stopped 3 times? Its ridiculous to even put him in the top 20.
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Originally posted by Joeyzagz View PostLots of people were stopped twice:Joe Louis, Vitali, Pacquiao, Holyfield.
But 3 times is a different threshold altogether. You wont find many ATGs with 3 kos on their record. And the ones that do were past prime or had a hell of a resume to back it up.
Who has Wlad fought to warrant being stopped 3 times? Its ridiculous to even put him in the top 20.
First off Wlad was REALLY only waxed once.. HE won about 14 of the 15 rds or so he FOUGHT vs Brewster & Puritty & was stopped on exhaustion due to overly getting excited on his beatdowns of said opponents & forgot to put the brakes on... so technically Lenny has been ktfo twice by just two punches... Wlad in those two fights probably didn't take that many punches when the bouts were stopped.... so therein lies your answer. Everyone knows 4 of the 5 Klitschko stoppages were due to Klitschko's bodies failing them... right.
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostIf we are gonna nitpick Marciano's resume is underwhelming, as is Joe Louis; and Larry Holmes....the only top ten heavyweight greats that have beaten a prime fellow great was Ali, Foreman, and Frazier...they all did it beating each other......Sonny Liston, Lennox Lewis, even Holyfield none of them beat prime great heavyweights....the closest was Holyfield in the Bowe rematch but Bowe never lived up to his talent
The other guy made a good point here below.
Vitali beat a few of them for him and Vitali had to avenge his losses palming fighters off onto your brother because their style suits him better doesn't make a great.
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Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
First off Wlad was REALLY only waxed once.. HE won about 14 of the 15 rds or so he FOUGHT vs Brewster & Puritty & was stopped on exhaustion due to overly getting excited on his beatdowns of said opponents & forgot to put the brakes on..
Majority of the time its the man who causes the most damage who wins the fight. Scorecards are for figure skaters and ping-pong tournaments.
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostMarciano's best win is over a washed up Joe Louis....go figure anybodys resume can be picked to pieces....Klitschko has beaten more top ten heavyweights of his time than everyone besides Louis or maybe Ali
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Originally posted by Own3d View PostWlad has beat nobody worth a damn his best win is a CW that he was so afraid of that he threw nothing but the jab and grabbed when he got close.
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Originally posted by Joeyzagz View PostLots of people were stopped twice:Joe Louis, Vitali, Pacquiao, Holyfield.
But 3 times is a different threshold altogether. You wont find many ATGs with 3 kos on their record. And the ones that do were past prime or had a hell of a resume to back it up.
Who has Wlad fought to warrant being stopped 3 times? Its ridiculous to even put him in the top 20.
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