Why is Marquez all defensive about his new muscles?

[deliveryman]

Since when has he not displayed power? This is what's getting me the most. He caught him with two perfect, clean, flush shots. He had never caught Pac that clean before.

You're the one accusing him. Now go find two shots in the previous 36 rounds that were as clean and well thrown as the two that hurt him. I'll wait.

You know why people didn't accuse Pac after blowing out Hatton? Cause he walked face first into the shot, just like Pac did last night. The difference is that Hatton fans knew boxing a bit better. All these ****s can't seem to grasp the fact that if you get caught by a shot from a big puncher, which Marquez has always been, then you are going to get hurt.

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[danceswithfire]

Explain Hatton then.

he got caught by a known big puncher ...when was jmm ever that esp at higher weight?...

[The Evil 1-2]

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Are you dense? The left hook that Marquez threw in that video was nowhere near as vicious as the right hand that laid him out...

[Zano-24]

Are you dense? The left hook that Marquez threw in that video was nowhere near as vicious as the right hand that laid him out...

I think that was referring to the 1st knock down in the 3rd round.

[BennyST]

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I knew it before, but you just proved it. Do you understand the difference between a punch that is thrown with perfect balance, not too short or too long?

In that left hook, Marquez is overextended and reaching and he lands it at the very end of the punch, where there is not much power. It still nearly put Pac down.

He's always had the power to do it, as shown by that hook and the right hand that stunned Pac in their third fight that didn't land as well as that one in the third round, but you just found the cleanest shot Marquez had landed, and he was still reaching with it and it still only caught Pac at the end of the punch.

Thanks for trying though.

[BennyST]

he got caught by a known big puncher ...when was jmm ever that esp at higher weight?...

Marquez has always been known as a big puncher. Pac has always been known as a big puncher too, that stops guys with accumulation more though. But, Marquez stopped guys that had never been dropped, or knocked out before many times. Pac has shown that he can be hurt, knocked down and knocked out. It has all happened to him numerous times before.

What is so hard to understand?

Mosley and Margarito couldn't put Cotto down with one shot. Mosley especially, a major league puncher, could hardly even hurt him with huge right hands, yet Pac lands one clean left hand uppercut that not only knocks him down badly, but completely ruins his legs too.

Do you understand that this is what happens in boxing when you get caught clean? It is minute differences in the velocity and angle of punches. Pac, a guy that came up from Flyweight, could nearly take Cotto's head off with one punch, whereas Mosley, a massive puncher from 135 to 154, couldn't get close to it over 12 rounds? This is your reasoning.

Hatton, who had only been stopped against a guy after taking 10 rounds of non stop, clean, hard, flush punches and still got up up ramming head first into the corner post, suddenly gets put out with one shot by a former Flyweight, despite having shown he could take shots from one of 140s greatest ever punchers in Tszyu without even blinking....Pac had never put someone out like that before and he does it suddenly, without question, at the highest weight he's ever fought at?

It's called catching someone clean. It's all about catching someone flush, when they don't see or expect it. That's what Marquez did. That's what Pac did. That's what Martinez did. It's what hundreds of guys have done. Simple as that.

[danceswithfire]

Marquez has always been known as a big puncher. Pac has always been known as a big puncher too, that stops guys with accumulation more though. But, Marquez stopped guys that had never been dropped, or knocked out before many times. Pac has shown that he can be hurt, knocked down and knocked out. It has all happened to him numerous times before.

What is so hard to understand?

Mosley and Margarito couldn't put Cotto down with one shot. Mosley especially, a major league puncher, could hardly even hurt him with huge right hands, yet Pac lands one clean left hand uppercut that not only knocks him down badly, but completely ruins his legs too.

Do you understand that this is what happens in boxing when you get caught clean? It is minute differences in the velocity and angle of punches. Pac, a guy that came up from Flyweight, could nearly take Cotto's head off with one punch, whereas Mosley, a massive puncher from 135 to 154, couldn't get close to it over 12 rounds? This is your reasoning.

Hatton, who had only been stopped against a guy after taking 10 rounds of non stop, clean, hard, flush punches and still got up up ramming head first into the corner post, suddenly gets put out with one shot by a former Flyweight, despite having shown he could take shots from one of 140s greatest ever punchers in Tszyu without even blinking....Pac had never put someone out like that before and he does it suddenly, without question, at the highest weight he's ever fought at?

It's called catching someone clean. It's all about catching someone flush, when they don't see or expect it. That's what Marquez did. That's what Pac did. That's what Martinez did. It's what hundreds of guys have done. Simple as that.

no he 's not ..even nacho dont think this..

http://www.boxingscene.com/nacho-adm...-ko-win--60281

[BennyST]

he got caught by a known big puncher ...when was jmm ever that esp at higher weight?...

By the way, except for his two losses, Marquez has knocked out every fighter he's fought from 135 to 147 except Sedchenko.

He lost to Mayweather and Pac (even though against Pac in his last fight, he was huge and also working with Heredia), but apart from that, he's knocked out every other guy with the exception of Sechenko.

Casamayor and Diaz had never been stopped before fighting Marquez, despite having fought some of the biggest P4P punchers of their era.

Pacquiao has been knocked out the same amount of times as all of Marquez' opponents combined from 135 to 147.

[BennyST]

no he 's not ..even nacho dont think this..

http://www.boxingscene.com/nacho-adm...-ko-win--60281

Context kid. Context.

Clearly you haven't been watching boxing very long. When Marquez started out, he was known as a power puncher. He wasn't thought of as counter puncher or boxer/puncher. He was thought of by the general boxing fraternity as a power puncher. Clearly you don't remember that because you've only been watching boxing for six months. Having watched his entire career from it's inception, that's what everyone said of him when he was blasting guys out early on.

[BennyST]

But JMM and Pac have essentially the same KO %....so....JMM did knock people out, look at his record.

Actually, Marquez has more knock outs at a higher KO % with the same amount of fights as Pac.

People love to revise history though.