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  • Obama quietly passes FREEDOM Act, Worse then the Patriot Act -_-

    By a vote of 67-32 the senate passed Obama's Freedom act, rather quietly I might add. here's a few things wrong with it:

    1) The recent decision of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that the bulk collection of American citizens’ telecommunications information was not authorized by the USA PATRIOT Act means that as of this afternoon, the bulk collection of American citizens’ telecommunications information was an illegal act. The government was breaking the law each time it grabbed our metadata. The moment the FREEDOM is signed by President Obama that same activity will become legal. How is making an unconstitutional and illegal act into a legal one a benefit to civil liberties?

    2) The FREEDOM Act turns private telecommunications companies into agents of state security. They will be required to store our personal information and hand it over to state security organs upon demand. How do we know this development is a step in the wrong direction? It is reportedly the brainchild of Gen. Keith B. Alexander, the NSA director at the time! According to press reports, this was but a public relations move to deflect criticism of the bulk collection program. Alexander “saw the move as a way for Obama to respond to public criticism without losing programs the NSA deemed more essential,” reports Homeland Security News.

    3) The FREEDOM Act turns private telecommunications companies into depositories of “pre-crime” data for future use of state security agencies. It is a classic authoritarian move for the state to co-opt and subsume the private sector. Once the FREEDOM Act is signed, Americans’ telecommunications information will be retained by the telecommunications companies for the use of state security agencies in potential future investigations. In other words, an individual under no suspicion of any crime and thus deserving full Fourth and Fifth Amendment protection will nevertheless find himself providing evidence against his future self should that person ever fall under suspicion. That is not jurisprudence in a free society.

    4) The FREEDOM Act provides liability protection for the telecommunications firms who steal and store our private telecommunications information. In other words, there is not a thing you can do about the theft as long as the thief is a “private” agent of the state.

    Thomas Jefferson's looking down wondering wtf lol

  • #2
    Great post!

    Here's a great video from a great president:

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    • #3
      obama is defnitely a lizardman.


      voted for him in '08. didnt' vote for anybody in '12. they're all lizards, basically.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
        Great post!

        Here's a great video from a great president:

        Thing is, the Kennedy's themselves are one of the purported "13 Bloodlines".

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        • #5
          IMO, Obama is the biggest fraud in American political history - the definition of a Manchurian candidate.

          When will people realise that whether the president is a Democrat or a Republican is irrelevant?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hitman Hodgson View Post
            IMO, Obama is the biggest fraud in American political history - the definition of a Manchurian candidate.

            When will people realise that whether the president is a Democrat or a Republican is irrelevant?
            Took me awhile. I'm a little slow sometimes.

            But I agree.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hitman Hodgson View Post
              IMO, Obama is the biggest fraud in American political history - the definition of a Manchurian candidate.

              When will people realise that whether the president is a Democrat or a Republican is irrelevant?
              Couldn't agree more. American gets worse and worse and those two parties have been in charge most of it.

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              • #8
                such bullshlt.....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TredKiller View Post
                  By a vote of 67-32 the senate passed Obama's Freedom act, rather quietly I might add. here's a few things wrong with it:

                  1) The recent decision of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that the bulk collection of American citizens’ telecommunications information was not authorized by the USA PATRIOT Act means that as of this afternoon, the bulk collection of American citizens’ telecommunications information was an illegal act. The government was breaking the law each time it grabbed our metadata. The moment the FREEDOM is signed by President Obama that same activity will become legal. How is making an unconstitutional and illegal act into a legal one a benefit to civil liberties?

                  2) The FREEDOM Act turns private telecommunications companies into agents of state security. They will be required to store our personal information and hand it over to state security organs upon demand. How do we know this development is a step in the wrong direction? It is reportedly the brainchild of Gen. Keith B. Alexander, the NSA director at the time! According to press reports, this was but a public relations move to deflect criticism of the bulk collection program. Alexander “saw the move as a way for Obama to respond to public criticism without losing programs the NSA deemed more essential,” reports Homeland Security News.

                  3) The FREEDOM Act turns private telecommunications companies into depositories of “pre-crime” data for future use of state security agencies. It is a classic authoritarian move for the state to co-opt and subsume the private sector. Once the FREEDOM Act is signed, Americans’ telecommunications information will be retained by the telecommunications companies for the use of state security agencies in potential future investigations. In other words, an individual under no suspicion of any crime and thus deserving full Fourth and Fifth Amendment protection will nevertheless find himself providing evidence against his future self should that person ever fall under suspicion. That is not jurisprudence in a free society.

                  4) The FREEDOM Act provides liability protection for the telecommunications firms who steal and store our private telecommunications information. In other words, there is not a thing you can do about the theft as long as the thief is a “private” agent of the state.

                  Thomas Jefferson's looking down wondering wtf lol
                  He's a liberal doe!

                  :lol:

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                    Great post!

                    Here's a great video from a great president:

                    Yup idk about illuminati or all that but they do keep secrets, they work for the rich

                    Originally posted by New England View Post
                    obama is defnitely a lizardman.


                    voted for him in '08. didnt' vote for anybody in '12. they're all lizards, basically.
                    liars, most are lawyers and businessmen, and build much of their fortunes at the expense of the American people

                    Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                    Couldn't agree more. American gets worse and worse and those two parties have been in charge most of it.
                    you would think in a country as big and powerful as ours that there would be more then just 2 options for president, just 2 parties to choose from, truth is by the time they run for president they've likely already been bought.

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