Explain why Sergio Martinez vs floyd mayweather at 160 doesnt make sense?

[Marvellous1]

Well Pac did already destroy Cotto didnt he, so why should he move up to 154? When Floyd beats someone convincingly does he ever give rematches? Did people think he had to give JMM a rematch, and did he give JMM a rematch? I think the answer is no, so all the other stuff you wrote is utter rubbish and i dont need to say anymore here.

Why should Pac have to bloat himself up and down in weight. Hes offering cotto a chance. Beggars cant be choosers.

Either you missed the point or you're being wilfully ignorant. Every excuse or reason you love to Pacquiao for not taking a risk in moving up, you could apply to Mayweather when discussing moving up to 160lbs. Pacquiao should've moved up for the fight he wanted to prove he can beat Cotto without any catchweights. That might've removed any taints from the previous victory. But we both know Pacquiao wasn't up to taking that risk. A better question would be "why even chase a fight with someone you already destroyed?". Something else you'll find an excuse for, I'm sure.

What I told you about why Pacquiao wanted the match was fact, sonny. They wanted a low risk match and Cotto wouldn't play his part as the sacrificial lamb, ie. make as easy as possible by fighting at catchweight. The rematch wasn't offered out of kindness, it was a move to make Pacquiao look something like the fighter he was three years previous. They then thought an older Marquez might finally be beaten convincingly. Boy did they get that wrong!

Doesn't change the fact that Pacquiao ran from a challenge that might have dispelled the notion that he didn't need catchweight to beat Cotto. And it seems that some so-called boxing fans are fine with it, but think a welterweight not fighting at middleweight is a duck.

"Why was it ok for Pacquiao to run from a fight at 154lbs against a fighter he already beat?"

These guys are still lawyered.

[hugh grant]

Either you missed the point or you're being wilfully ignorant. Every excuse or reason you love to Pacquiao for not taking a risk in moving up, you could apply to Mayweather when discussing moving up to 160lbs. Pacquiao should've moved up for the fight he wanted to prove he can beat Cotto without any catchweights. That might've removed any taints from the previous victory. But we both know Pacquiao wasn't up to taking that risk. A better question would be "why even chase a fight with someone you already destroyed?". Something else you'll find an excuse for, I'm sure.

What I told you about why Pacquiao wanted the match was fact, sonny. They wanted a low risk match and Cotto wouldn't play his part as the sacrificial lamb, ie. make as easy as possible by fighting at catchweight. The rematch wasn't offered out of kindness, it was a move to make Pacquiao look something like the fighter he was three years previous. They then thought an older Marquez might finally be beaten convincingly. Boy did they get that wrong!

Doesn't change the fact that Pacquiao ran from a challenge that might have dispelled the notion that he didn't need catchweight to beat Cotto. And it seems that some so-called boxing fans are fine with it, but think a welterweight not fighting at middleweight is a duck.

"Why was it ok for Pacquiao to run from a fight at 154lbs against a fighter he already beat?"

These guys are still lawyered.

Floyd never gave JMM a rematch so dont keep talking about Pac not fighting Cotto at 154.

Pac has given rematches to people he destroyed so thats better than anyting Floyd has ever done.

Floyd said hes the money man, and Sergio and Floyd will make big money. So whats Floyds excuse to not fight? Pac has a reputation for fighting regularly Floyd hasnt. So it dont look good for Floyd.
Pac stepped up so many divisions already and beating DLH was a risk. Floyd is claiming hes the best so its risk time. If hes not goin to fight often at least when he does fight it has to be something special otherwise its anti climatic and he may as well stay retired.

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Floyd never gave JMM a rematch so dont keep talking about Pac not fighting Cotto at 154.

Pac has given rematches to people he destroyed so thats better than anyting Floyd has ever done.
Floyd said hes the money man, and Sergio and Floyd will make big money. So whats Floyds excuse to not fight? Pac has a reputation for fighting regularly Floyd hasnt. So it dont look good for Floyd.
Pac stepped up so many divisions already and beating DLH was a risk. Floyd is claiming hes the best so its risk time. If hes not goin to fight often at least when he does fight it has to be something special otherwise its anti climatic and he may as well stay retired.

What a brain dead fck you are , you talk utter fantasy !

[GUEVARA]

What a brain dead fck you are , you talk utter fantasy !

you should seriously reconsider your statement, you being yourself and all.

[MJ223]

Cant believe this thread still has life..... The man cant make 60

[GUEVARA]

Cant believe this thread still has life..... The man cant make 60

what part of "skills wins not size" cant you get?

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what part of "skills wins not size" cant you get?

The part where WWs force CWs inside the division and then goes and gets faced planted by a LW .

[dc3383]

what part of "skills wins not size" cant you get?

By that statement Andre Ward should fight a Klitchko brother next

[Marvellous1]

Let me break this down to so you understand, Hughey. Pacquiao didn't seek a rematch with Cotto out of obligation. He and his team were seeking a soft option. Roach admitted it. Cotto just refused to play along when they threw their catchweight request with the offer of the fight. Is that too difficult for you understand? They needed another catchweight and ran because the risk was to great without it. If not, why ask for the catchweight? Why run when it's not given? Especially as it had nothing to do with first result.

You keep mentioning Mayweather not giving Marquez a rematch. Why? After the easy sparring session it was never necessary. Mayweather moved on to fighting welterweights at welterweight and Cotto at light-middle, for his title, no catchweight (unlike Pacquiao, who seems to need them). The point(if there is one) is moot.

You want to know what Mayweather's excuse not to fight a middleweight at middleweight? Well when you can answer why Pacquiao couldn't fight a small light-middleweight at light-middlewight, you might get closer to the truth all by yourself. Seeing as you still can't answer that question, you remain hopelessly lost and completely lawyered.

[hugh grant]

Let me break this down to so you understand, Hughey. Pacquiao didn't seek a rematch with Cotto out of obligation. He and his team were seeking a soft option. Roach admitted it. Cotto just refused to play along when they threw their catchweight request with the offer of the fight. Is that too difficult for you understand? They needed another catchweight and ran because the risk was to great without it. If not, why ask for the catchweight? Why run when it's not given? Especially as it had nothing to do with first result.

You keep mentioning Mayweather not giving Marquez a rematch. Why? After the easy sparring session it was never necessary. Mayweather moved on to fighting welterweights at welterweight and Cotto at light-middle, for his title, no catchweight (unlike Pacquiao, who seems to need them). The point(if there is one) is moot.

You want to know what Mayweather's excuse not to fight a middleweight at middleweight? Well when you can answer why Pacquiao couldn't fight a small light-middleweight at light-middlewight, you might get closer to the truth all by yourself. Seeing as you still can't answer that question, you remain hopelessly lost and completely lawyered.

Pac already destroyed cotto and its not his job to prove he can destroy cotto at 154 as well, most think he could beat Cotto at any weight. He gives rematches something Floyd dont. And Pac fights regularly so that is a danger in itself. Fightin as little as Floyd does is no risk so when you do fight people expect you to challenge yourself a bit more, im sorry buts how it is. Floyd beats cotto at 154, well so did Trout. So Floyd is not doing anything no one else isnt doing. Hes just blending in with the crowd and not standing out. Didnt stop cotto like Pac as well. Pac stands out not Floyd.

Why didnt floyd rematch JMm and try come under the weight limit this time and see if JMM does any better? Pac is 5ft6 and a naturally skinny guy look at his early photos as evidence.

And no, no one would expect Pac to move up to 154 to beat Cotto, people would think hes an idiot and being a martyr.
Floyd get in the ring with sergio already.