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  • #31
    Originally posted by ~Ironfist View Post
    I have a dream...

    I dream that some day people will be judged on what they do, and skin color will no longer make any difference. I dream that someday, all racism will come to an end, and we can all live together as brothers and sisters.
    You couldn't carry Martin Luther King Jr. cup & jock strap, so write your own speech and leave his alone bigot.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Horus View Post


      great movie.. very funny
      They should make a new one and call it the great black hype. It could star David Haye!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Alibata View Post
        Who cares about this division anyway???? Hatton is the Great White Hope right now..
        How is Hatton a white hope when both white and black people have champions ? There should be no black or white hope.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ~Ironfist View Post
          I have a dream...

          I dream that some day people will be judged on what they do, and skin color will no longer make any difference. I dream that someday, all racism will come to an end, and we can all live together as brothers and sisters.
          yet everything that you say is race related. how about giving it a rest and talk about something a little less boring. or are you just a mindless turd? the whole notion of being 'proud of your race' is effin' ******ed which by extension makes you at least mildly ******ed.

          I don't think I like you very much.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Horus View Post


            great movie.. very funny
            lol - you're not my daddy.........are you?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ~Ironfist View Post
              I have a dream...

              I dream that some day people will be judged on what they do, and skin color will no longer make any difference. I dream that someday, all racism will come to an end, and we can all live together as brothers and sisters.
              Then stop bringing race into every fu.cking converstation. No one has ever said that they don't like the Klitschkos due to their skin colour apart from racist bigots like you. Vitali is actually quite popular, Wlad less so because a lot of people find his style boring and over-cautious.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ~Ironfist View Post
                They should make a new one and call it the great black hype. It could star David Haye!
                Answer this some questions:
                What is Wlad career defing fight?
                What is vateli career defining fight?

                How long has their reign lasted?

                What year did Vateli win his belt?
                What year did Wlad win his belt?

                Lets Look at a list of heavyweight champions and see how long has it been since a black fighter held a belt..

                A PERSON AND AFRICAN BACKGROUND HAS NOT GONE LONGER THEN 2-3 YEARS WITHOUT HOLDING A TITLE..!

                SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GREAT BLACK HOPE???


                BUT CAN WE SAY THAT ABOUT EASTERN EUROPEAN FIGHTERS??


                HISTORY OF HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPIONS

                Mike Tyson (WBC) 1996

                Mike Tyson (WBA) 1996

                Michael Moorer (IBF) 1996-1997

                Evander Holyfield (WBA, IBF) 1996-2000

                Lennox Lewis (WBC) 1997-2000

                Lennox Lewis (WBA, WBC, IBF) 2000

                Evander Holyfield (WBA) 2000-01

                Lennox Lewis (WBC, IBF) 2000-01

                John Ruiz (WBA) 2001-03

                Hasim Rahman (WBC, IBF) 2001

                Lennox Lewis (IBF) 2001-02

                Lennox Lewis (WBC) 2001-04

                Roy Jones Jr. (WBA) 2003

                Chris Byrd (IBF) 2003

                Vitali Klitschko (WBC) 2004

                John Ruiz (WBA) 2003


                2004:
                WBA Champion - Roy Jones jr. - John Ruiz
                WBC Champion - Vitali Klistchko
                IBF Champion - Chris Byrd (BLACK)
                WBO Champion - Wladimir Klitschko

                2005:
                WBA Champion - John Ruiz(*James Toney)
                WBC Champion - Vitali Klitschko
                IBF Champion - Chris Byrd -(BLACK)
                WBO Champion - Lamon Brewster (BLACK)

                2006:
                WBA Champion - Nicolay Valuev
                WBC Champion - Hasim Rahman (BLACK)
                IBF Champion - Chris Byrd (BLACK)
                WBO Champion - Serguei Lyakhovich

                2007:
                WBA Champion - Ruslan Chagaev
                WBC Champion - Oleg Maskaev
                IBF Champion - Vladamir Klitschko
                WBO Champion - Shanon Briggs-Sultan Ibragimov






                1968 Jimmy Ellis won the vacant WBA title from Jerry Quarry
                1970 Joe Frazier beat Jimmy Ellis for the Undisputed titles
                1971 Joe Frazier beats Muhammad Ali
                1973 George Foreman beats Joe Frazier
                1974 Muhammad Ali beat George Foreman for the Undisputed Heavyweight titles.
                1978 Leon spinks beat Ali
                1978 Ali beat Leon Spinks
                1980 Larry Holmes beat Ali
                1985 Mike Spinks beat Holmes
                1988 Mike Tyson beat Mike Spinks
                1990 James Douglas beat Tyson
                1990 Evander Holyfield beat Douglas
                1992 Riddick Bowe beat Holyfield
                1993 Evander Holyfield beat Bowe
                1994 Michael Moorer beat Holyfield
                1994 George Foreman beat Moorer
                1997 Shannon Briggs beat Foreman
                1998 Lennox Lewis beat Briggs
                2001 Hasim Rahman beat Lewis
                2001 Lennox Lewis beat Rahman
                2003 Lennox Lewis retired

                Lennox Lewis was the last Heavyweight undisputed Champion of the world. Lineage broken.
                Last edited by Horus; 04-10-2009, 01:48 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ~Ironfist View Post
                  No, people want a black heavyweight champion.
                  People want an exciting, explosive heavyweight champion. End of. And they want a single world champion, not a division ruled by two brothers who won't fight each other. You and some other Klitschko fans are the most racist posters on here.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Horus View Post
                    Lennox Lewis was the last Heavyweight undisputed Champion of the world. Lineage broken.
                    So your saying a champion is not a "real" champion unless he is black?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ~Ironfist View Post
                      So your saying a champion is not a "real" champion unless he is black?


                      Dude!

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