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  • #11
    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
    Drown our kids and grandkids with a shtstorm of debt, I agree.

    How about the 3+ million jobs that have been lost since the "Stimulus" was implemented?
    I remember reading somewhere that something like $30 billion created 24,000 jobs.

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    • #12
      I see most of posters in this thread are Republicans.

      I got two questions for you

      1. What Republicans do you want to run for president in 2012?
      2. Rush Limbaugh said Sarah Palin is ready to be President of the United States, do you agree??

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      • #13
        Originally posted by The Dice View Post
        The stimulus package has nothing to do with Job losses in the private sector. Stimulus plan created 640000 jobs.



        There is a lot more stimulus left and this will help in the next few quarters




        Debt load is not prohibitive to growth. This has been proven. Greatest periods of economic growth were post revolution and post WW2 both of which were periods where it's debt/GDP ratio were actually higher than they are now.
        You're a moron. Debt under any circumstance is a bad thing. And your statistics are wrong because unemployment keeps going up every week.

        About 550k new unemployment claims a week.

        If there was any job creation it was in the government sector. Yay...

        More would be bureaucrats.

        The notion of GDP is also a faulty indicator because the GDP numbers are also fudged.

        Its more of that "free market" math that brought us derivatives from Wall St.

        Go back to school chumps.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by The Dice View Post
          The stimulus package has nothing to do with Job losses in the private sector. Stimulus plan created 640000 jobs.
          WRONG. The claim was "created or saved."

          Are you actually trying to claim that 640K new government jobs would actually be a good thing?

          Originally posted by ILLuminato View Post
          I remember reading somewhere that something like $30 billion created 24,000 jobs.
          Well first they said it had created 30K jobs or so. Then, when that was proven to be false, that they had counted jobs as many as 4 times each ....... well, they came up with an even bigger lie.
          Last edited by Jim Jeffries; 11-01-2009, 11:21 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Jack D Ripper View Post
            You're a moron. Debt under any circumstance is a bad thing. And your statistics are wrong because unemployment keeps going up every week.

            About 550k new unemployment claims a week.

            If there was any job creation it was in the government sector. Yay...

            More would be bureaucrats.

            The notion of GDP is also a faulty indicator because the GDP numbers are also fudged.

            Its more of that "free market" math that brought us derivatives from Wall St.

            Go back to school chumps.
            Of course, more jobs were created in the government sector. That is the point of the stimulus. Increase government spending when private spending is down. Hopefully, this will have multiplier effect in the economy.

            All you are is an anti-establishment, Jack. It gets very boring at times. Government is doing this and that. Blah Blah Blah.

            If you don't want to live under a government move to a country without a central government. I suggest Somalia
            Last edited by The Dice; 11-01-2009, 11:32 PM.

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            • #16
              No one wants a dissolution of Government. But instead of the 3 trillion dollar per year monstrosity that we have today, I'd like to return to one that simply fulfilled the 6 basic functions outlined in the Constitution.



              To Form a More Perfect Union: While initially, the (former) colonies weren't united, they soon came to realize that there is strength in solidarity and as such formed an alliance with one another. Thus, the Constitution provide for such a union.

              To Establish Justice: The most vital role in a successful democratic government is to ensure justice within the nation. Though the term justice is open to interpretation, the explanation most widely accepted is that the law must be fair, unbiased, and logical. While these standards we are not always met within this nation, the American people wish to strive for such ideals.

              To Provide for the Common Defense: While the Constitution didn't necessarily allow for elite military operations, it did intend for the government to provide a basic system of defense against enemies of the state. The U.S. government has, over the years, broadened the definition of defense and has also utilized this role of the government most often.

              To Secure the Blessings of Liberty: The American nation was built around the ideals of individual freedom and liberty, however, the Founding Fathers also came to the realization that certain boundaries must be set forth in order to ensure that such liberties would not breach those of
              other citizens'. While the government certainly makes it a point to promote such personal liberties, it is up to the American people to constantly challenge the government to provide for such freedoms.

              To Promote the General Welfare: A broad purpose of the government that is constantly open to adaptation and growth, is the role of the government to provide the American people with services and regulations that are for the public good. Such regulations may include health and food standards, public education, and consumer protection. However, in order to allow capitalism to flourish, the government leaves certain services available to private businesses (such as railroads and airline transportation), this allows market competition to thrive so that the consumer can receive the best services and prices possible.

              To Insure Domestic Tranquility:This role of the federal government is relatively self-explanatory in name. The government must provide order in society and allow for domestic peace. It must also present the nation from ever ascending into anarchy.
              Last edited by Jim Jeffries; 11-02-2009, 12:24 AM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by The Dice View Post
                Of course, more jobs were created in the government sector. That is the point of the stimulus. Increase government spending when private spending is down. Hopefully, this will have multiplier effect in the economy.

                All you are is an anti-establishment, Jack. It gets very boring at times. Government is doing this and that. Blah Blah Blah.

                If you don't want to live under a government move to a country without a central government. I suggest Somalia
                Which produces what exactly?

                A country with a bigger government and more petty, moron, self important control freaks on power trips.

                Great plan.

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                • #18
                  This thread will inevitably be populated by the sheep who blindly follow two fat guys that couldn't even make it through college:

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
                    This thread will inevitably be populated by the sheep who blindly follow two fat guys that couldn't even make it through college:

                    Here's another idiot that couldn't (didn't?) make it through college:

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Jim Jeffries View Post
                      Here's another idiot that couldn't (didn't?) make it through college:

                      Hey Jim,

                      How's the weather in New Zealand?

                      When you get a few minutes, call me. I'll sit you down and explain the difference between "didn't" and "couldn't'

                      hint: the difference is vast.

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