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  • Originally posted by spoonwars View Post
    Who said Manny will take less than 50/50? Did Manny say that or did he say he'd take less money, which can be from any amount higher than 50/50?
    OMG, that is the very gayest excuse that I have ever heard.

    Just wow to pu55y-pac and his ignorant fanboys.

    Only an absolute piece of **** would try that one on kid.

    When Pacquiao said that he would take less money, it was plainly obvious what he meant fanboy, so stop talking utter ****. You pac-clowns are a joke here.

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    • Originally posted by mannyfresh209 View Post
      Pacquiao refused to fight Cotto at 150 after he had beat him HANDILY at 145. He beat him so badly, you'd think the weight was not an issue. But he's scared to move up to 150 to fight him and meet him halfway. Makes you wonder, just who is really scared of tough fights.
      Maybe Floyd, cos he dont fight full stop.
      But Pac said after the marge fight that he wont fight there again, so if he did fight Cotto at 150 he would be lying and Pacs not a liar.

      Pac has beat Cotto already so dont really need him again. Fighting Bradley is a better alternative. Its not like Pac is avoiding Cotto to fight a b level fighter, or even Castillo is it, the guy who beat Floyd.
      Pac can only fight one guy at a time,and whoever he fights, someone will say hes ducking that guy cos hes choosing to fight that guy? Its getting old now.

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      • Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
        try making sense...it helps.
        Why try to speak sense with someone as dumb as you? Wanna play fetch the stick?

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        • Originally posted by isidius View Post
          This pac boy person rly needs to know how g@y that name looks, flashing it about even more so.
          He told me that he is not just an ignorant manny-fan..... apparently he is a genuine boxing fan, and that he has forgotten more about boxing than I will ever know

          But, he still thinks that Manny is an ATG, and he does not think that Manny is over-rated, and he does not agree that Manny has had a manufactured resume' since 2008.

          Wow, go figure ?

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          • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
            I am glad that Mayweather is continuing to call Pacquiao a steroid cheat.

            Ever since Team Pacquiao realised that Mayweather will never concede his testing requirements, Pacquiao has shown no interest whatsoever in fighting Mayweather.

            Initially, I thought that Pac/Arum had resigned themselves to the fact that they will only fight Mayweather for Manny's very last fight.... but now, I dont think the fight will happen, I think that Pac will retire and duck Mayweather by hiding behind god.

            They were happy to match Pac up against Mayweather if there was to be no additional drug testing, but I now believe that Manny knows he will be badly embarrassed in that fight, and that he will harm his legacy by raising even more suspicions.

            I do not believe Manny thinks that he can compete with Floyd. Maybe he did at one stage, but not now, I think that is clearly obvious.
            So Manny doesn't want to because of testing? How many times does Manny have to tell you guys that he is willing to take the test?

            Even Floyd said its not an issue ....

            By the way, was it Manny who told Floyd to say don't accept 50/50 deal? lol!

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            • Originally posted by illwill112 View Post
              GOd you *****s are to funny. This whole wieght drain thoery has been crushed before. You dont liek PAc that is fine but and crying liek you are make you look like a bigger *****. Stop it already, Cotto lost to Pac plain and simple. FLoyd is scared to fight Pac plain and simple, if he wasnt there would be a fight on May 5 with 50/50 split.
              You are an absolute clown kid.

              Perhaps at least do some research, if you clearly have no idea what you are talking about......

              I mean what a fkn moron, you silly ****.

              If the weight did not matter, then why did Pac insist upon it ?

              Why was the weight a show-stopper for Pussiao ?

              Why was Manny too scared to fight Cotto at 154 ?

              Why was Manny too scared to fight Cotto at 150 ?

              Read this, you fkn idiot......

              This past Sunday on GMANews.TV, Manny Pacquiao said he knows exactly what Miguel Cotto is going through trying to get down to weight the week before the fight. Pacquiao went as far as to say that having been in a similar situation himself, the weight reduction is going to play a crucial role in the outcome of the fight.

              Manny stated that along with trying to sweat off the weight, Cotto will be reducing his caloric intake to make the 145 catch-weight limit stipulated in the fight contract. And he knows that effort will be very demanding on Miguel.

              Outside of having your relatives referee and score your fight, there's no more sure way to compromise a fighter and help alter the outcome of it than beating him on the scale. Bringing a fighter down in weight if it's a struggle affects everything he does in the ring in a bad way.

              Pacquiao's failure to make weight resulted in him losing his WBC flyweight title to Medgoen Singsurat when he was knocked out in the third round 10 years ago. He also had a difficult time making the 130-pound limit for his rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez in March of 2008, a fight in which some observers believe the split decision verdict in his favor could have just as easily gone to Marquez.

              A little over a week out from the fight Pacquiao says he weighs between 148 and 149. So much for him being the smaller fighter next to Cotto.

              The catch-weight of 145 for Pacquiao-Cotto has been a topic of fierce debate since the bout was signed. One side of the argument is that Cotto is too big and should meet Pacquiao somewhere below the welterweight limit of 147 to make it more fair. The opposing side asks why Cotto has to put his WBO welterweight title on the line and not be allowed to weigh the maximum the division allows.

              To those who believe Cotto isn't at a slight disadvantage coming in at 145 Manny Pacquiao says you're wrong. And if making 145 isn't a big deal for Cotto why has he never fought below 146 since moving up to welterweight?

              A sure sign of a fighter who struggles getting down to weight is the one who usually weighs in right at the division limit or a half to a full pound below it. Jake LaMotta barely made middleweight before and during his reign as middleweight champ. I trained with former light heavyweight champ Dwight Muhammad Qawi - and making 175 was always a struggle for him, evidenced by him always coming in right at the light heavyweight limit or a half a pound under it once he won and defended the title.

              Then there's the other side where fighters like Marvin Hagler often made the middleweight limit by 2/3 pounds. And the same applied to Michael Spinks making the light heavyweight limit of 175. Both Hagler and Spinks breezed to make weight and always came in under the division limit.

              Miguel Cotto has been weighing in between 146 and 147 since he outgrew the junior welterweight division. That's a testament indicating making the 147 pound limit isn't easy for him and it requires a lot just for him to do that.

              Making 145 isn't the issue concerning Cotto; there's no doubt he'll be able to do that. And it wouldn't be a shock, at least not here, if he in fact came in at 144 being that's he's probably been consumed with how much he weighs during his preparation for the fight. The question is will he be his best and the same fighter who fought Mosley, Margarito and Clottey? And no one knows the answer to that.

              One thing we do know is Cotto won't be better at 145 or 144.5 for Pacquiao than he was at 146 for the three previous mentioned fights. These two fighters are almost the same size and it wouldn't be the least bit surprising if when they get into the ring Saturday night that Pacquiao looks like the bigger fighter.

              Anyone who has ever been around a fighter who's trying to cut weight knows it's not a pretty sight. There's only so much spit, waste and sweat in their body. And there's a good chance that that will compromise Cotto. Which doesn't mean Pacquiao wouldn't have won the fight even if Cotto came in at 146/147, if he does.

              However, those two pounds that Cotto has to lose will affect him more than the 147 he could've carried would've harmed Pacquiao. If losing unnatural weight hurt Pacquiao against Singsurat and Marquez, then it's a fair point Cotto may be hurt trying to cut the extra pound to fight him.

              Of course it'll be argued that Pacquiao had to cut weight because he was still growing, and that's a legit point. But on the other hand, Cotto has already flowered and is very vulnerable to being a little depleted at 145 at this stage of his career.

              Does the catch-weight clause of 145 mean Pacquiao shouldn't receive all due props if he wins? No. Pacquiao supporters will argue it made no difference and he's just the greater fighter. Whereas Cotto's fans will be emphatic that the catch-weight was the main reason Miguel lost if he does. Either way it'll be overstated.

              But it's an undeniable truth that Pacquiao will not be confronting the same fighter in Cotto that fought Mosley and Margarito.
              Last edited by LeadUppercut; 02-27-2012, 08:44 PM.

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              • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                Maybe Floyd, cos he dont fight full stop.
                But Pac said after the marge fight that he wont fight there again, so if he did fight Cotto at 150 he would be lying and Pacs not a liar.

                Pac has beat Cotto already so dont really need him again. Fighting Bradley is a better alternative. Its not like Pac is avoiding Cotto to fight a b level fighter, or even Castillo is it, the guy who beat Floyd.
                Pac can only fight one guy at a time,and whoever he fights, someone will say hes ducking that guy cos hes choosing to fight that guy? Its getting old now.
                So your whole argument, is Pacquiao is not a liar, and therefore he is not able to fight at 150 to make a more challenging fight? And Bradley, who has he fought that you could make the argument that he's a A-list fighter? And last time I checked, only haters thought DLH and Castillo beat Floyd. His record says otherwise.

                And if you wanna bring up "robbery", look no further than Pac/JMM 3. What else you wanna talk about?

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                • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                  And, the..... when Manny cherry-picks made-to-order opponents, he is reaching for greatness thing?

                  You think you hate Mayweather now, just wait til after they fight ^^
                  Manny isnt reaching for greatness...He already is. 8time 8 different divisions champ. 3 times fight of the year. and fighter of the Decade....wow. Top that...no undefeated fighter has done that....lol...After they fight...Man Floyd is ignorant but not that ignorant...hes not getting in the ring with monster manny!

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                  • I love it when a big name speaks the truth!...NO FEAR!

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                    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                      Maybe Floyd, cos he dont fight full stop.
                      But Pac said after the marge fight that he wont fight there again, so if he did fight Cotto at 150 he would be lying and Pacs not a liar.

                      Pac has beat Cotto already so dont really need him again. Fighting Bradley is a better alternative. Its not like Pac is avoiding Cotto to fight a b level fighter, or even Castillo is it, the guy who beat Floyd.
                      Pac can only fight one guy at a time,and whoever he fights, someone will say hes ducking that guy cos hes choosing to fight that guy? Its getting old now.
                      PACQUIAO: I will fight anybody under 150 pounds with full random blood testing!!!


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