Originally posted by crazyboy867
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boxing = hand combat...why is back hand, slapping, hammer punches illegal?..
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Because that's what the rules say. Maybe they felt it was degrading because people used to give the wife a backhand back in the day.
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Personally I don't see the backhand as being effective, the hammerfist is only going to be used from a mounted position like in MMA. Both bear significant chance of injuring your hand.
That said I don't think the back hand should be illegal because I don't see any extra risk to your opponent and alot of guys hit with backhands by mistake when throwing unorthodox jabs. It wouldn't change the game because its a useless strike and it would cut down on unneeded penalty calls. Hearns is a good example, that flicker jab had to hit a couple of people with the back hand every now and then but it was probably too fast for the ref to tell.
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Originally posted by Makunouchi View PostPersonally I don't see the backhand as being effective, the hammerfist is only going to be used from a mounted position like in MMA. Both bear significant chance of injuring your hand.
That said I don't think the back hand should be illegal because I don't see any extra risk to your opponent and alot of guys hit with backhands by mistake when throwing unorthodox jabs. It wouldn't change the game because its a useless strike and it would cut down on unneeded penalty calls. Hearns is a good example, that flicker jab had to hit a couple of people with the back hand every now and then but it was probably too fast for the ref to tell.
In boxing you strike and remove your arm/glove; there is no grabbing (hear that Klitschko), pawing, holding, forearm hits, elbows, etc...
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Originally posted by [T][B][E] View PostEven if you could hammer fisting is only effective if your mounting your opponent, backhanding is only effective if you spin. In boxing you must stay on your feet and you must face your opponent at all times.
Sourcess: my dad 16 year marine vet, going on 8 years in the af that he learned in Marine Corps mma, oohrah
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I think any form of punch, either backhand or hammer should be legal..
Open gloves shouldn't be allowed..
Does anyone remember Samuel Peter getting frustrated by toney and throwing an "ear clap" punch with both hands at James.. The ref warned him and I'm like wtf, that should be legal IMO
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostI think any form of punch, either backhand or hammer should be legal..
Open gloves shouldn't be allowed..
Does anyone remember Samuel Peter getting frustrated by toney and throwing an "ear clap" punch with both hands at James.. The ref warned him and I'm like wtf, that should be legal IMO
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Originally posted by Dr Rumack View PostBoxing does not mean 'hand combat', boxing means boxing. And within the rules of boxing, there are set definitions of what constitutes a legal punch. A strike with an open glove, the back of the hand, or the side of the hand is not regarded as legal.
The key point is that boxing is a sport and not unrestricted 'hand combat' as you suggest. And in any sport, the rules are constructed in a manner that places emphasis on what people regard as the primary skills of the sport. Letting people do stuff that undermines the value of those skills in a contest only undermines the sport as a whole.
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