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The all new, Mayweather/Pac Master Discussion Thread - The fight that will never be.
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Originally posted by Majp View PostI hate how people think that because pac was knocked out by jmm that mayweather is just going to walk through him now. The reason why jmm does so well is because he fought him 4 times. 1st fight, jmm gets knocked 3 times. makes some adjustments and comes back stronger in the 2nd fight getting knocked down only once. He comes out of the 3rd fight with no knockdowns. And in the 4th fight, he not only gets a knockdown of his own but a knockout. I want mayweather to finally make this fight happen now thinking its going to be easy and get knocked out himself. Unbiasedly though, i would favor mayweather against pac. Mayweather basically does what jmm can with counter punching but better and faster which is nightmare style matchup against pac. The only way i see pac winning is by coming out aggressively from the opening bell. Mayweather tends to start off slow against people whose skills he respects(shane) while pac is usually a fast starter(hatton). If pac can apply intelligent early pressure i can see him being fast and strong enough to get the knockout but the longer the fight goes on and the more mayweather makes adjustments, the lower the chances of pac winning are. I see either a knockout win by pac in the 5-8 rounds IF he comes out aggressive but if not, which is more likely, floyd wins with a close decision.
This post has a few problems. Pac came out aggressively against Marquez after the opening bell and we all saw how it ended. Pac's aggression can be used against him as Marquez so brilliantly demonstrated. Now I know you're going to say Pac needs to use intelligent pressure but even though he used intelligent pressure in his last two fights against Marquez it wasn't enough to beat him convincingly.
Pac also hasn't gotten a knockout in several years which could mean that either his power has deminished or his speed has. If you can't KO Bradley or Marquez I highly doubt you're going to knockout the best defensive fighter in the game today. (Which is a fact by compubox)
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The odds against Pac ever beating Floyd were nil.
Even lower than the fight happening. Too bad some Pac fans are still in denial
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Originally posted by Lead Cenobite View PostThe odds against Pac ever beating Floyd were nil.
Even lower than the fight happening. Too bad some Pac fans are still in denial
As far as Floyd-Pac, I think it's quite obvious Manny would've fought Mayweather any time in any fuckin place. He's got so much more guts and flat out balls than him (and I'm a Floyd guy). If Pac is at fault for anything, it's not speaking up for himself outside of the ring and letting Arum dictate things that set up roadblocks on his behalf. I think he was put up to it. I think he wanted it far more than Floyd, Arum/Debouf and hell maybe even Floyd's promoters Golden Boy. HOILast edited by damuttz112; 12-15-2012, 10:47 PM.
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@junior
Originally posted by junior gong View Post...apart from the plain fact that he would make more money with Manny than he could than he could with any other fighter on the planet, and if as in your ****ed up opinion he is as faded and chinny and crap as you laughably claim he is, then he fits the perfect profile of a Floyd opponent.
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chin for chin
JMMs chin >>>> Floyds chin
If and when Manny keeps tagging Floyds chin like JMMs, look for Manny to put floyd on his bicycle ... ala amir khan.
In a sick twist of fate ..... JMMs juices, gets a (*) KO win against Manny .... this was the only way Floyd would have considered actually TRUELY fighting Manny.
We might actually see the fight now that Floyd senses wounded prey like vulture.
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Originally posted by TheBoxingBanger View PostJMMs chin >>>> Floyds chin
If and when Manny keeps tagging Floyds chin like JMMs, look for Manny to put floyd on his bicycle ... ala amir khan.
In a sick twist of fate ..... JMMs juices, gets a (*) KO win against Manny .... this was the only way Floyd would have considered actually TRUELY fighting Manny.
We might actually see the fight now that Floyd senses wounded prey like vulture.
As Max Kellerman said: "manny hasn't fought another fighter who still ad it since he fought Marquez and obviously the great Marquez still has it."
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