For 40 fights, its quite clear this guy used PEDs

[Vasyl’s dad]

No but nice word play

refuse-

1. to express oneself as unwilling to accept
2 a : to show or express unwillingness to do or comply with <refused to answer the question> b : deny refused admittance to the game>
3 obsolete : give up, renounce father and refuse thy name — Shakespeare>


see your choice of words has different meaning if you really want to twist words around to fit your point

you are using the 3rd definition of the word meaning you renounce alcohol

fine thats your CHOICE

however when it comes to the subject at hand, whether Floyd refused to test, then the first two are he definitions that apply. You are using the word refuse to mean Floyd has shown an unwillingness to test. That is false because there hasn't been an instance where he has been presented something in the first place to refuse

even if you went by the third definition of refuse you have no proof he gave up or renounced testing. In fact, he has shown precedent in stating he is willing to ACCEPT testing as a part of his fights.

so your version of how YOU use the word refuse does not apply to what you are insinuated about Floyd

I refuse to drink alcohol and nobody has to offer me any to make that choice.

Just as Floyd refused to implement testing in any of his previous bouts.

Its not complicated, but quite simple really.

But if you want to go by the word itself and get overly technical,

ok, do as you please, but it doesn't change the fact that Floyd never demanded testing because he was on PEDs himself. That is enough to raise questions as to why, suddenly, does one choose to "clean up the sport" on his own whim.

Either way,

it can't be proven that he wasn't using for 40 fights.

He didn't take any random blood testing, never inquired about it, never petitioned the organizations about it and we all know why.

He was cheating his opposition during that time.

If you have the time, please, you and every one else,

tell why you think he was clean.

[Vasyl’s dad]

atleast he is willing to take a test how bout pac

He wasn't willing for 40 fights.

PEDs is why.

Or else, Floyd and his family, as insiders to the sport who know a thing or two about a thing or two about boxing,

would have lobbied for this type of testing from the very beginning of his career.


If you want to make a thread about Pac and PED use, go right ahead,

this isn't the place for that discussion.

[Vasyl’s dad]

but he didn't get tested with OST in his last 40 fights. How do we know if he was really clean?

You know what they want to say, but they won't because it will come back to bite them in the ass and nobody wants to look like a hypocrite.


Over 50 pages and nobody wants to blurt it out.

[Eaner0919]

You're wrong.

"I choose not to drink alcohol" = expressing oneself as unwilling to accept alcohol.

but here is the thing

if you choose something fine

TW chooses not to drink fine

when was Mayweather given the chance to choose OST testing?

never until he brought it up correct?

and PK

not sure where you are going but wasn't OST testing suggested in the original negotiations of this fight?

[Eaner0919]

I refuse to drink alcohol and nobody has to offer me any to make that choice.

Just as Floyd refused to implement testing in any of his previous bouts.

Its not complicated, but quite simple really.

But if you want to go by the word itself and get overly technical,

ok, do as you please, but it doesn't change the fact that Floyd never demanded testing because he was on PEDs himself. That is enough to raise questions as to why, suddenly, does one choose to "clean up the sport" on his own whim.

Either way,

it can't be proven that he wasn't using for 40 fights.

He didn't take any random blood testing, never inquired about it, never petitioned the organizations about it and we all know why.

He was cheating his opposition during that time.

If you have the time, please, you and every one else,

tell why you think he was clean.

but those are two different things and while you try and pass it off as simple I think you know you are indeed using a different definition of the word refusal for both your example and the thing you accuse Floyd of

and actually I never said he was clean

nor did I ever say Manny was dirty

get it?

[PensionKiller]

but here is the thing

if you choose something fine

TW chooses not to drink fine

when was Mayweather given the chance to choose OST testing?

never until he brought it up correct?

and PK

not sure where you are going but wasn't OST testing suggested in the original negotiations of this fight?

So is Pac innocent then?

[Vasyl’s dad]

lol, just received a "warning".

No Ceilings


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This kid is just begging for my attention.

How do you troll your own post?

[Boss Don]

He won 5 titles in 5 divisions in less than 10 years.

It took him to finally get off the juice for him to start demanding random blood testing.

Nobody, and I mean nobody,

can prove he wasn't juicing.



Anyone can try all they want to dispute it, but without random blood testing for 40 of his fights, Floyd "Roid" Mayweather Jr.,

has cheated the sport of boxing and his opponents 40 times.

True story Jack.

your right......wait I got a idea he should take olympic-style drug tests to porve he is clean

[peyk-peyk]

but he didn't get tested with OST in his last 40 fights. How do we know if he was really clean?

good question bro, until now nobody can give us a straight answer if Mayweather was clean during the 40 fights.

[Eaner0919]

So is Pac innocent then?

of what? PEDs? who knows?

what I do know is that it makes for a great debate and has proven to be just that same as this thread has turned out to be a great debate despite Floyd fans dismissing it is not

in the end speculation of PEDs doesn't begin and end with just Manny I have stated as much.