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The hardest hitters are slow not explosive agree or disagree and why

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  • #11
    Most were but not all.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by ragin View Post
      Poor Kenny. Never witnessed a fighter that could be so tough against boxers but absolutely crumble against the heavy hitters. He kept the hands high but the bombers always got thru... need to find out if he fought Shavers and how /if that fight went.
      He did, and it went as badly as possible for Ken.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
        He did, and it went as badly as possible for Ken.
        yup scotts right, shavers took kenny out even faster and with less punches than foreman needed

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        • #14
          As always, F=MA. The puck comes at you, losing force all the way. The punch ideally reaches you during acceleration.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
            As always, F=MA. The puck comes at you, losing force all the way. The punch ideally reaches you during acceleration.
            Can I fix that fer ya? seriosly "the punch ideally reaches you during maximum acceleration. Which is why explosive is such a way to go. Just as when an airplane (or any hydrocarbon engine) builds speed.... NOT like an electric engine where one hits the juice and wham! a punch has a range which it goes through as it is thrown. During this range, the movement starts, the body parts build towards maximum acceleration and usually at the last part when maximum acceleration has been reached the punch reaches the target. Like a rocket leaving the earth the punch is building as much acceleration as possible to generate more inertia... Of course the inertia for the punch is for the purposes of impact, although even a rocket has to have a certain impact to leave the atmosphere!

            When a grappler grabs, she could grab you, be drunk as a skunk, blinded, and have one arm and still be much more reliable about completing a technique than the most accurate puncher. this is why grapplers have the advantage when conditions are controlled. All a grappler needs to do is establish tactile feedback and accomplish proper weight distribution to be succesful.... When Rhonda Rousey hip throws an opponent, it has more in common with a moving man heaving a couch through a doorway (gross motor movements) than a punch. Most of the skillful movement comes with knowing where best to place the weight of oneself in relation to the opponent. I.e. knowing that to get my couch through the door I should put my feet 3 feet in front and push towards the top downward!

            for a punch to land its more like a pilot landing a plane, on the other hand. the puncher has to predict, with only visual feedback usually, where the target is in space, then he has to time his acceleration, redistribute his weight, push his arm out and try to anticipate contact and....either accelerate or decelerate his punch.... During this time if the target moves at all it changes critically the potential impact. To continue the analogy...imagine the airplane is landing the plane while the ground is moving at a speed that is noticeable (not simply the earth's rotation).

            The only difference between a punch and an object is that an object thrown, or hit...whether it be a baseball or puck, starts to decelerate immediately upon release/the shot. One problem punchers can have is when they use body dynamics that decelerate the blow instead of accelerate it, but even so, with a punch as it leaves our center it accelerates and no its not gravity, more along the lines of centrifugal force really.

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            • #16
              Tyson, Hearns, at times Leonard, Robinson most definitely, Frazier...and so on. All explosive punchers, none of them slow.

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