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  • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
    Canelos punch output was higher against Floyd that any other fight , explain how a drained fighter did that ?

    His output was higher , he was snappy the entire fight and he never gassed in the last 4 rounds like he usually does , explain that ?

    All easy to prove , you boys think all CWs are drained , the fight tells you if a guy is hurt by weight ,it shows in output , stamina , resistance and strength all elements that diminish at different rates the lower weight you go , its not an automatic draining because of a CW , you got to look at the fight thats where it will show if they went to far .

    Go watch , Oscar vs Manny and Chad Dawson vs Ward and then go watch Canelo vs Floyd and see if you can tell the difference in , output stamina resistance and strength , the drainings will stand out like dog balls , Canelo wasnt drained , he was as light as he could go but he wasnt drained and putting out his career highest output proves it .
    His output was higher because Mayweather spent a lot of the fight in front of him. He was there, Canelo his couldn't land anything significant

    As I said, the better fighter won. I don't blame the weight for him losing, I'm more than willing to credit Mayweather's skill for it.

    That doesn't change the fact that he looked terrible at the weigh in and that he won't go down in weight again.

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    • Originally posted by jinx_htx View Post
      Where do you guys get that Floyd "schooled" Canelo? It was a close fight. In no way shape or form did Mayweather dominate the fight, not even close. The few times Floyd looked good were the parts where Canelo was gassed tired, and even then Floyd never came close to hurting Canelo. Floyd did what what Floyd does best, he danced around landing a few pot shots here and there just enough to get the win.

      Floyd schooled Guerrero, but he did just enough to win and not get knocked out against Canelo.

      If there was a Floyd vs Canelo rematch, all Canelo would have to do is pressure Floyd more to get the win since he now knows Floyd has little power and can't hurt him.

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      • I like Canelo a whole hell of a lot more than I like Floyd, but you can't take away the schooling he gave Canelo. I don't believe Canelo coming in at say 155 would have made a difference. Floyd took him seriously and it showed. Canelo has also shown since then that he is no slouch. Floyd dominated a very good fighter that night and that win looks better with every big win that Canelo gets in the future.

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        • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
          catch weight @ 152 is not the some brotha'

          canelo was still green and dehydrated

          @152 Weak no power Canelo (no threat as a puncher)




          155 lbs hard punching solid Canelo (built to destroy) rehydrates to a tank

          Did you photo shop the top pic?

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          • Originally posted by MRBOOMER View Post
            Did you photo shop the top pic?
            Lol off course not.

            That's how pathetic canelo looked aye.. Like he was malnourished and unfed in a concetration camp. The worst part is with all his experience he drained a young fighter who's still trying to mature as a fighter. A vet fighting a kid.

            # in other words it was a prematurely drained young Canelo he fought. Shows how smart Floyd knows when the right time is to cherry pick an opponent.

            # truth hurts Floyd beat a green/drained 22 yo Canelo. Yes Floyd won against that dude with those conditions. That's all there is to it. Not the canelo of today.
            Last edited by Spoon23; 05-11-2016, 11:11 PM.

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            • Mayweather's dominance of Canelo was his best performance. I mean at one point Floyd was coming forward and was walking him down.

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              • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                ddd
                ADP02:
                Don't even bring up Oscar. He held all the cards. Oscar fought at 150 his previous fight and thought it was no big deal to come down 3lbs. Like you Floyd fans dumb excuses, it was just a dump away.
                Reloaded
                Manny out weighed Oscar lol , worst case of a draining in the history of boxing
                ADP02 Oscar wanted to come in lighter because he wanted to gain speed. He had said that he was on weight even before the weigh in. It backfired on him. When Oscar holds the cards, it makes your point meaningless.

                ADP02
                Cotto was Manny's first true WW.
                Margarito fought like forever at WW. So he got a 3lb bonus. Again, it was Manny's first time at that weight.
                Reloaded
                Again a lie Oscar was first and the weight with him was 147 , they forced the 145 on Cotto to drain him no other logical reason to force that weight >

                ADP02 Oscar was first what? You first say Oscar was a zombie then in your next sentence, we need to call that a real test for Manny at WW. Which one is it?

                Cotto was forced? lol! No Canelo was forced!

                Cotto added: "It doesn't matter if it takes place at 145 pounds. That was the weight we had said from the start. I will go up in weight by eight to 10 pounds (by fight night)."


                http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news...sed-by-pac-man


                ADP02
                Manny didn't have to come down to meet the 140 fighters but did. At least he kept the weight down, unlike Floyd who tricked Marquez and came in at whatever weight he pleased.
                Reloaded
                wtf you smoking lol , Manny and JMM came from the same division do I need to put up the videos as to why they wanted JMM at 147 , you are a clown .



                ADP02
                You are calling me a clown but you know that it was Floyd that fought a Marquez that had never fought at 140 nor 147 and was just wetting his ears at 135.

                oh and its funny that you are trying to defend a call for a 144 CW and calling me the clown! So do you hate or like CWs?




                Reloaded
                Again how do you justify Oscar at 147 , Cotto at 145 , JMM at 144, JMM at 147 , Algieri at 143 , Mararitto at 150 , Bradly Rios at 147 all CONTRACTED WEIGHT .

                Manny is biggest manipulator of weight in history , even now Roach is going on about Canelo but with a special rehydration clause , it never ends with Manny , the dude cant even fight WWs his last 10 fights were all JWS while the top 5 WWs all called him out , like Teddy said Manny is man made to order .
                Funny how you have to add to that list 3 fights that are not actually CWs. They are what one would call the WW division weight limit. Not a CW. Scrap those and besides Cotto and Margs, all you are left is Manny the WW title holder going DOWN in weight to fight a 140lb opponent.

                Funny that no matter what Manny does, you do not like. It seems to have nothing to do with CWs.
                - Fighting at 147? Bad.
                - Going down in weight to fight a 140 fighter? Bad.
                - Manny going up 2 divisions to fight at 147? Bad.



                Well since you went there, lets check out Floyd's opponents at WW:
                - Hatton? 1 fight at WW. Looked average. Went back down for 2 at JWW. Called up by Floyd.
                - Ortiz? KOd at 140. 1 Fight against Berto. Gets rocked 2 times. Floyd fights that bum.
                - Guerrero? Was fighting at the lower weights and took time off. Fights Berto. Good enough for Floyd.
                - Marquez? 0 fights at 140. 0 fights at 147. Only 2 at 135. Good enough for Floyd.
                - Sharmba? 1 fight at 147

                - Khan? Was supposed to be Floyd's next opponent if he beat Garcia. 0 fights at 147


                TOTAL at WW: 1+1+2+0+1 = 5 fights at WW for 5 opponents and that is excluding Khan. HAHAHAHA
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                Still waiting for you to admit that nothing tops Floyd vs Canelo for all the titles at CW of 152. Floyd had won the title TWICE before!!!! Canelo was even forced into it. WHAT A BIG JOKE!!!


                and do not forget calling up Marquez several divisions and Floyd not even making the contracted weight. WHAT A BIG JOKE!!!



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                Last edited by ADP02; 05-11-2016, 11:42 PM.

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                • Mayweather shut that boy out 12-0.


                  Also mayweather was 150 on fight night. Khan said he was 161.

                  Mayweather was a full 10 pounds lighter than khan on fight night when facing canelo, and you guys want to make a deal out of a 3 pound weigh in difference.

                  Khan got sparked out and won 3 rounds at best. Mayweather dominated for 12. Mayweather at 155 still beats canelo and definitely doesnt get sparked in the 6th like khan.

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                  • Originally posted by el*** View Post
                    Mayweather shut that boy out 12-0.


                    Also mayweather was 150 on fight night. Khan said he was 161.

                    Mayweather was a full 10 pounds lighter than khan on fight night when facing canelo, and you guys want to make a deal out of a 3 pound weigh in difference.

                    Khan got sparked out and won 3 rounds at best. Mayweather dominated for 12. Mayweather at 155 still beats canelo and definitely doesnt get sparked in the 6th like khan.

                    Khan has no chin and bad defense.

                    Khan can get sparked by lots of fighters due to his chin.

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                    • Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
                      Didn't think he was drained. Seemed to have successfully shrunk down. But with no massive weight advantage nor the skills, he got schooled badly.


                      He had a 15 pound weight advantage, that is pretty big. It didnt matter though

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