Why are past HWs with many losses respected, while modern ones with losses are not?

[The Hammer]

I see people on the various forums ridiculing Chris Arreola and Bermane Stiverne because they have a few losses (Stiverne 1 loss and 1 draw).

Why do people forgive past heavyweights for their losses and still respect them, yet are so harshly negative about current heavyweights?

- Bob Satterfield had 25 losses, but is respected
- Tony Galento had 26 losses (and was shorter and fatter than Arreola)
- "Gunboat" Smith had 28 losses
- Jersey Joe Walcott had 18 losses
- Ezzard Charles had 25 losses

They say "but they beat a good fighter" but that fighter they beat had lots of losses too. And some of the boxers that beat them weren't so good.

Are some people being TOO HARD on modern heavyweights? Do modern boxing fans make too much of a loss on a heavyweight's resume nowadays?

Haven't we all had a some poor days at work, when we are less productive and/or less focused for some reason (the baby was sick and crying all night so we couldn't sleep, some crisis with a teen aged son/daughter, stomach flu, etc).

[Kuyukut]

'cause they fought the best in their era... never ducked anybody and never complained about opponent's gloves.

[Bardock]

Blame any scrutiny on fighters not being undeated on Floyd duckweather

[Fetta]

Im guessing more respected comp.

Today Wlad is it in the HW dept. YEs there are a few semi respected fighters but in the end Wlad just dominates.

[The Hammer]

'cause they fought the best in their era... never ducked anybody and never complained about opponent's gloves.

Who has Chris Arreola ever ducked?

[Robbie Barrett]

"Bad day at work" doesn't apply when you've spent months preparing. Heavyweights of the past didn't have that luxury. They had to fight whatever because they didn't get paid hundreds of thousands to fight bums.

[Cinci Champ]

its pretty simple fans like to preach that having losses means nothing but when a fighter losses fans instantly discredit everything that fighter ever did but back in day a loss was not the end all be all

[Verstyle]

Same reason you come on here every damn day and discredit Floyd Mayweather

[Cinci Champ]

"Bad day at work" doesn't apply when you've spent months preparing. Heavyweights of the past didn't have that luxury. They had to fight whatever because they didn't get paid hundreds of thousands to fight bums.

i dont buy that a lot of the fighters that fought a lot more in every division were fighting a ton of barely pro fighters to make money and stay busy in between their real fights joe louis had that dam bum of the month club or whatever

[marvelousmatt]

I see people on the various forums ridiculing Chris Arreola and Bermane Stiverne because they have a few losses (Stiverne 1 loss and 1 draw).

Why do people forgive past heavyweights for their losses and still respect them, yet are so harshly negative about current heavyweights?

- Bob Satterfield had 25 losses, but is respected
- Tony Galento had 26 losses (and was shorter and fatter than Arreola)
- "Gunboat" Smith had 28 losses
- Jersey Joe Walcott had 18 losses
- Ezzard Charles had 25 losses

They say "but they beat a good fighter" but that fighter they beat had lots of losses too. And some of the boxers that beat them weren't so good.

A truly great/good HW fights and can get KO'd or KO an opponent at any time. Vladdy KO does not get enough respect. THe 3 loses are good for him.

Are some people being TOO HARD on modern heavyweights? Do modern boxing fans make too much of a loss on a heavyweight's resume nowadays?

Haven't we all had a some poor days at work, when we are less productive and/or less focused for some reason (the baby was sick and crying all night so we couldn't sleep, some crisis with a teen aged son/daughter, stomach flu, etc).

A truly great/good HW fights and can KO an opponent at any time. A few loses at HW does not ruin careers. HW get better with age too. Vladdy KO does not get enough respect. THe 3 loses helped him in some ways. The HW Division is very good right now. This is the best young & up coming crop of HW since the late 90's.