Prime James Toney in today's MW SMW? dose he beat martinez ward?

[turbotime]

i dont think you've seen the MW and JMW version of Toney


he beats Ward, Martinez AND Bute

I don't recall Toney ever fight at 154.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Bute would outbox Toney.

More comedy from you

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I don't recall Toney ever fight at 154.

typo...SMW

[turbotime]

typo...SMW

Cool. I never thought he had the footwork to hang with that type of style of tall boxer, he fought like he was stuck in the mud, and was very small for the weight.

Just my opinion. I feel he ruins everyone at 160 though.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Cool. I never thought he had the footwork to hang with that type of style of tall boxer, he fought like he was stuck in the mud, and was very small for the weight.

Just my opinion. I feel he ruins everyone at 160 though.

Bute is what? 6'1? Toney has fought guys that height...guys from Nunn to HWs...didn't seem to have a problem...stuck in the mud? he sat in the pocket and worked on the inside...


i see him coasting against Bute and stunning Bute with counters

[The Gambler1981]

James Toney would do good at middle but the competition isn't there to keep him interested in the game, so he would go to 168 quickly and once he gets there to me that isn't even prime Toney anymore beccause he constantly balloned in weight and under performed even though he kept the train on the tracks until running into Jones but he didn't fight all that many quality guys.

[turbotime]

Bute is what? 6'1? Toney has fought guys that height...guys from Nunn to HWs...didn't seem to have a problem


i see him coasting against Bute and stunning Bute with counters

Bute is 6'2. AND That's Toney's problem, he coasts to much IE just stands there and does nothing while Bute would dance and rack up points.

[intoccabile]

I have to be honest with you. Toney didn't do well with southpaws or movement at all. As good as he was, his one achilles heel was the movement. he was very very flat footed and LAZY on his feet. He'd lean, cover his head on occasion and LET you turn him, he never bothered to pivot or side step. For that reason alone, I think the likes of Ward and Martinez beat him. But then, that's just talking about his defense. How they handle his offense? I don't know, but I have a feeling because of his lazy he was to move his legs, he'd allow a guy like martinez to dictate the pace and coast.

[intoccabile]

Bute is 6'2. AND That's Toney's problem, he coasts to much IE just stands there and does nothing while Bute would dance and rack up points.

LOL wow, read this after I posted. Glad someone else realizes toneys faults and not just me.

[Atreyu Khalil]

Toney can fight during his prime at MW or SMW. I feel that he can probably beat every MW atm. I duno how he will do against WARD BUT wARD Is still developing as a fighter. Atm Prime Toney probably can take him out.

Toney would destroy Martinez....

Who has Sergio beat?

and he would beat Ward as well...that fight would be much closer because Ward is a much better al around boxer than Martinez